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DrBaker
09-23-2005, 06:06 PM
Please post some pics of your ARs. I only have one (for now). I'd like to see different configurations, how you build them up, what accessories you use, etc.

1shott
09-23-2005, 06:24 PM
You have seen mine and shot it allready.

DrBaker
09-23-2005, 06:44 PM
You have seen mine and shot it allready.

It was definately a bad boy.

bratch
09-23-2005, 07:55 PM
Was going to post a pic of mine but can't get the picture small enough.

DrBaker
09-23-2005, 08:03 PM
Was going to post a pic of mine but can't get the picture small enough.

Try going to www.putfile.com . It is a free hosting site.

1911Sooner
09-23-2005, 08:59 PM
Here you go Dr. Baker. The this is a Bushmaster carbine with Eo Tech and also factory irons. Maybe if/when we hook up at H&H you can try it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/OUSooner/63cfcac7.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/OUSooner/14ed040e.jpg

DrBaker
09-23-2005, 08:59 PM
Here's my only one. It feels kinda plain compared to some of the pimped out ones I've seen lately.

Anybody have suggestions on mods/accessories?

http://x4.putfile.com/9/26520564258.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)

DrBaker
09-23-2005, 09:01 PM
1911Sooner

When you use the EOTech, does the dot show up on the front site or is the whole thing viewed above it?


That looks sweet. I'd love to try it sometime.

CAR-AR-M16
09-23-2005, 11:29 PM
Here is my M16 with all of my uppers and AAC M4-2000 suppressor.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v389/CAR-AR-M16/M16.jpg

Specs:

Lower Receiver:
Olympic Arms/SGW Registered Receiver.
Colt M4 Commando Enhanced 4-Way Fire Control Group (Safe, Semi, 3rd Burst, Auto).
LMT SOPMOD Buttstock.
DPMS 2-Piece Mechanical Buffer.
KNS Non-rotating Hammer and Trigger Pins.
GG&G Receiver End Plate Sling Attachment.

Upper Receiver #1:
Bushmaster Flattop Upper with 20” Bushmaster 1/7” twist A2 Barrel and AAC M4-2000 Flash Hider.
Yankee Hill Machine Flip-up Front Sight.
Colt Bolt/Bolt Carrier.
PRI Gasbuster Charging Handle.
KAC M5 Rail Adaptor System.
KAC Forward Vertical Grip.
KAC Forend Rail Sling Mount Adapter with QD Swivel.
Harris S-Series Folding Bipod.
Matech Back-up Iron Sight.
Trijicon TA31F ACOG with Killflash.

Upper Receiver #2:
LMT Flattop Upper with 14.5” LMT 1/7” twist M4 Barrel and AAC M4-2000 Flash Hider (M4-2000 shown mounted).
Colt Bolt with LMT Bolt Carrier.
PRI Gasbuster Charging Handle.
KAC M4 Rail Adaptor System.
KAC Forward Vertical Grip.
KAC Forend Rail Sling Mount Adapter with QD Swivel.
ARMS #40 Back-up Iron Sight.
Aimpoint Comp M2 in ARMS #22M68 Mount w/Cantilever Spacer.

Upper Receiver #3:
CMT Flattop Upper with 11.5” Colt 1/7” twist Barrel and A2 Flash Hider.
Colt Bolt/Bolt Carrier.
Colt M4 Handguards.
KAC Front Sight Tower Sling Mount Adapter with QD Swivel.
LMT Back-up Iron Sight.

DrBaker
09-23-2005, 11:35 PM
That's awesome.

stepper
09-23-2005, 11:45 PM
OMG, thats incredible!

stepper
09-23-2005, 11:48 PM
Dr. Baker, if I had a digital camera, I would take a picture of my AR for you. Oh wait, now it the other way around, if I had an AR, I would take a picture of it with my digital camera.........

RatTerrier
09-23-2005, 11:58 PM
Here's my only one. It feels kinda plain compared to some of the pimped out ones I've seen lately.

Anybody have suggestions on mods/accessories?

Get an ARMS S.I.R.S. foregrip and the accessory possibiities are endless. When I have about $400 extra bucks thats what I'm getting. :heart:
http://www.armsmounts.com/catalog.php?action=110&cat_id=8

Until then this is how I'm setup.....cheap red dot, irons and a 6x32 scope.
http://www.picturehosting.com/images/Jason1369/dscf0146.jpg
http://www.picturehosting.com/images/Jason1369/dscf0144.jpg
http://www.picturehosting.com/images/Jason1369/dscf0143.jpg

CAR-AR-M16
09-24-2005, 12:01 AM
RatTerrier,

What type of grip do you have on your AR? It looks like it would provide a better, more comfortable grip than the standard A2.

RatTerrier
09-24-2005, 12:11 AM
1st Samco G27 grip. Its alot nicer than the stock grips and its only like $20 bucks or so.
http://www.downrangesports.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=445

pete156
09-24-2005, 12:11 AM
Rat, shave yer toes man. :wink2:

Nice AR's y'all. I think I'm gonna be stuck with my AK for a while, but I do plan on joining y'all in the AR club in the next 6 months or so.

RatTerrier
09-24-2005, 12:20 AM
BUWAHAHAHAHA I knew someone was gonna mention my toes! LOL And pete, buy the AR pieces at a time. Buy the lower, that'll cost ya around $90 - $120 depending on who has thier name engraved on the side of it. Then get ya the upper at a later time. I just happen to have an extra complete lower in my gun safe....just waiting for a 20 or 24" barrel with flip up sights and a big scope to go on it. *sigh* Or I might sell it to my dad....and let him buy the upper.....then I can just unpin his upper and pin in on mine...muhahahaha. But thats what I did, I bought the lower on month and then figured out if I wanted a flat top upper or a fixed handle upper. Flattops give ya more options for accessories. And ask any chic, you gotta accessorize! lol

pete156
09-24-2005, 12:38 AM
Since I'll be a complete noob in the AR dept., I should still buy pieces? I assume that their easy to assemble even for someone like me who knows nothing?

RatTerrier
09-24-2005, 12:50 AM
Since I'll be a complete noob in the AR dept., I should still buy pieces? I assume that their easy to assemble even for someone like me who knows nothing?

YES they are easy to "build"....the uppers come pre-built, the barrel, foregrips, front sight, ejection cover, forward assist its all put together and ready to go. The lower, is the part you'll have to get put in your name and registered n stuff. No biggie. Then you need the lower parts kit, trigger, hammer, springs, detents, mag release button, mag catch button, etc. About 31 parts I believe. They sell kits of these with all the parts you need to put into the lower. Instructions are pretty simple and heck, you get one and I'm sure there's more than a few of us that'd be willing to help ya put the parts kit into the lower. Then, once the lower is complete, it takes 2 pins to connect the upper to the lower and wallah....comlete rifle. I think it took me n my dad about 30 minutes to put my lower together. Quite simple really. Here's a link showin ya the lower parts kit and what ya have to do. With pictures even. :thumb:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=226782

pete156
09-24-2005, 01:01 AM
Cool

That page makes it look like a breeze.

RatTerrier
09-24-2005, 01:08 AM
Yer welcome, thats what I used to put mine together with and it was easy. There is one thing I should warn you about though.....maybe I shouldn't.....well....once you build you an AR....its like a drug.....you.....want to build another one, set up differently. Look at CARs uppers he has. He's diseased, just like me. Just like you will be as well. :hithead:

1911Sooner
09-24-2005, 07:47 AM
RatTerrier----Nice Toes!!! :D

Dr.Baker, the front sight is visible in the bottom part of the window in the EOTech but the dot itself is above it.

Mack45
09-24-2005, 09:11 AM
One note of extreme caution! There ain't no cure for BRD! Treatment and temporary relief are available but no cure.

Glockender
09-24-2005, 09:13 AM
Rat...where would be a good place to look to buy all the parts? I think I would rather build one than buy one already built :)

1shott
09-24-2005, 09:27 AM
Rat...where would be a good place to look to buy all the parts? I think I would rather build one than buy one already built :)


Look for some online venders.

I have assembled a few, and like the Bushmaster parts kit, BUT the DPMS kit is also a good, along with the RRA kit.

If you have a C&R license, you can get a discount through Brownells, a DPMS kit will run you around $45 or so.

TOOLS, you will also need a few tools, roll pin punches, small brass ball peen hammer, maybe a pair of needle nose pliers.

Mack45
09-24-2005, 09:39 AM
Here's a pic of mine, if this works.

RatTerrier
09-24-2005, 09:43 AM
Rat...where would be a good place to look to buy all the parts? I think I would rather build one than buy one already built :)
IM sent with some links for ya to check out. :thumb:

1shott
09-24-2005, 09:50 AM
I will post a few pics of mine when my batts are charged.

DrBaker
09-24-2005, 12:39 PM
IM sent with some links for ya to check out. :thumb:

If you get a chance, can you send me the links as well. I'm thinking about building my 2nd one.

dogboy13
09-24-2005, 02:49 PM
please forgive the quality of the pic
http://www.parkcitiestactical.com/album/00000891/ar15_001.jpg

complete RRA rifle refinished in socom black
trijicon reflex sight on a.r.m.s. mount
a.r.m.s b.u.i.s.

i also have a stag arms lower with RRA kit with vltor stock waiting for me to get a form 1 done on it
and a colt 9mm lower also waiting for a form 1so i can get the upper i want for it

1shott
09-24-2005, 03:07 PM
Here you go,

Armalite/Eage Arms stripped lower
Bushmaster LPK
Houge grip
Vltor A1 stock

Upper, built by JTAC,

CMT T-numbered upper
WOA 16in blackend stainless barrel with wylde chamber
Vortex G6 flash suppressor
DD 9.0 forend
EoTech 512 RevF
Troy combat folding front site
Arms #40 fold down rear

http://fototime.com/18A7DF09A366A0B/standard.jpg

http://fototime.com/E0D1DD18D55954F/standard.jpg

http://fototime.com/A0C648DCA670F2C/standard.jpg

761mph
09-24-2005, 05:47 PM
oly lower with BM kit,a3 flattop upper with 24" SS bull barrel, free floating handguard,3x9x50 simmons scope (also have a ANPVS2 for the top of this setup)

oly lower with BM kit, a1 upper with 20" pencil barrel

Colt sp1,a1 upper with 11.5/5.5 barrel, this ones all colt except the ambi. selector and viltor buffer tube

oly lower with colt lpk,a1 upper with BM16" pencil barrel, phantom FH,green furniture
(this lower is the same as the top rifle)

DrBaker
09-24-2005, 05:57 PM
I have the hots for some green furniture.

761mph
09-24-2005, 06:33 PM
at first i did it to just have a non-black rifle

but i've kinda warmed up to the green

Chocobo
09-24-2005, 08:44 PM
This is my plan factory Bushy M4A3 with phantom flash hider and a ruber pistol grip. I want to put a scope and a light on it.

http://www.imagecrown.com/images/Chocobo1911/bushm4.jpg

DrBaker
09-24-2005, 09:32 PM
Somebody school me.

What's A1, A2, A3, M4, etc ?

CAR-AR-M16
09-24-2005, 09:40 PM
Somebody school me.

What's A1, A2, A3, M4, etc ?

This link should answer your question:

http://groups.msn.com/TheMarylandAR15ShootersSite/whatisana1a2a3ora4.msnw

1shott
09-24-2005, 09:41 PM
Somebody school me.

What's A1, A2, A3, M4, etc ?


A1, very early model Colts, the have trianglure hand guards, slab sided, no fence around the mag release....

A2, Standard type AR rifle, normally a 20in barrel, govt profile, turned down under the handguard, and a fixed carry handle.

A3, Flat top upper, which means the carry handle is removable, can have any barrel length.

M4, the most popular AR on the markit, it will have a A3 upper, 14.5in barrel with a perminate attached flash suppressor, bayo lug on the front site base and a granade launcher cut out on the barrel. Also some sort of optics mounted in place of the carry handle and a collapable stock.

RatTerrier
09-24-2005, 09:48 PM
A1, very early model Colts, the have trianglure hand guards, slab sided, no fence around the mag release....

A2, Standard type AR rifle, normally a 20in barrel, govt profile, turned down under the handguard, and a fixed carry handle.

A3, Flat top upper, which means the carry handle is removable, can have any barrel length.

M4, the most popular AR on the markit, it will have a A3 upper, 14.5in barrel with a perminate attached flash suppressor, bayo lug on the front site base and a granade launcher cut out on the barrel. Also some sort of optics mounted in place of the carry handle and a collapable stock.

:teach::teach::teach: On "civilian" model M4s it will either have a 16" barrel or it will have a 14.5" barrel with a perminately attached muzzlebreak giving the barrel an overall length of the legal 16". Unless you have the proper paperwork to have a short barreled rifle. :)

DrBaker
09-24-2005, 10:43 PM
M4gery ?

Is that a mutt M4 ?

RatTerrier
09-24-2005, 11:08 PM
M4gery ?

Is that a mutt M4 ?
M4gery is like what I have.....its not a real M4 with the 14.5" barrel that the military uses.

CAR-AR-M16
09-24-2005, 11:09 PM
M4gery ?

Is that a mutt M4 ?

M4gery = M4 + Forgery. As close to a Military issue M4 as possible.

1shott
09-25-2005, 02:19 AM
:teach::teach::teach: On "civilian" model M4s it will either have a 16" barrel or it will have a 14.5" barrel with a perminately attached muzzlebreak giving the barrel an overall length of the legal 16". Unless you have the proper paperwork to have a short barreled rifle. :)


Thats what I said........dont agrue with me, I am older than you. :gun1:

RatTerrier
09-25-2005, 02:21 AM
You didn't say exactly what I said, I simply added to what you were saying anyways so besides you being older....what are you sayin here?? LOLOL:nutkick: And yeah you might be older but I've posted more on here so I don't see what the whole age thing has to do with anything. lol

1shott
09-25-2005, 08:38 AM
You didn't say exactly what I said, I simply added to what you were saying anyways so besides you being older....what are you sayin here?? LOLOL:nutkick: And yeah you might be older but I've posted more on here so I don't see what the whole age thing has to do with anything. lol


Age has everything to do with everything, like fine wine, I get BETTER with age....

And post count has means nothing, it is QUALITY, not quanity that counts.. :wink2:

acman145acp
09-25-2005, 10:29 AM
heres some lowers who need homes

http://tinypic.com/dxhb1t

acman145acp
09-25-2005, 10:40 AM
my pimped out car it sports a diffrent sling now went with tt 3point
http://tinypic.com/dz79lz.jpg

acman145acp
09-25-2005, 11:02 AM
short barrel prarie dog shooter

http://tinypic.com/dz7coz.jpg

RatTerrier
09-25-2005, 06:13 PM
Age has everything to do with everything, like fine wine, I get BETTER with age....

And post count has means nothing, it is QUALITY, not quanity that counts.. :wink2:
Do you have references I can call to backup what you're saying? hahaha

761mph
09-25-2005, 07:55 PM
AC.........are these the ones that the butthead stiffed you on ?

what mfg. are they ? prices ?

yeh i know BRD is very addictive...

BUDMAN-BILL
09-25-2005, 08:27 PM
heres some lowers who need homes

http://tinypic.com/dxhb1t


I'm interested in putting together one more. Please send your info on them to me at BilFreem9@aol.com

RatTerrier
09-25-2005, 08:29 PM
If there's any orphans in that bunch I'd be more than happy to take it under my wing and raise him to the best of my ability! lol :kiss:

acman145acp
09-25-2005, 09:50 PM
If there's any orphans in that bunch I'd be more than happy to take it under my wing and raise him to the best of my ability! lol :kiss:

Yea right I've seen how you mistreat a trigger :gun1:
My car told me :nono1: rat on the trigger he put a :smack: on me at the
JTAC shoot.......

BTW my :ugh2: thumb has never fully recovered from the bumpfire blister.
"note to self" mak90 leaves a nasty burn after untold amounts of bumping "note to self"

RatTerrier
09-25-2005, 10:00 PM
I was easy on your car......and its not mistreatting them, they beg to be used to the fullest of thier ability!! And I love the front pistol grip you have, but I remember you telling me to get a different one than the one you have.....I forget exactly what kind you said to get though. But heck I still don't have anywhere to mount it. I was hoping to have already of had an ARMS SIRS foregrip/ rail n a pistol grip on it. But its been a bad year for me and money so I haven't spent but a little here and a little there on gun stuff. :grumble: Oh yeah.....watch your grip of the Mak, they tend to get a little warm around the handguard up there. :comfort:

DrBaker
10-01-2005, 03:24 PM
I fell victim to H and H 10% off everything sale. I got a Bushmaster XM15 E2S. It has 6 position stock, bayo lug, flash supressor, heavy barrel, A3 flat top upper (plus carry handle). I think it's a decent base to start building from.

DrBaker
10-01-2005, 03:29 PM
RatTerrier----Nice Toes!!! :D

Dr.Baker, the front sight is visible in the bottom part of the window in the EOTech but the dot itself is above it.

Did you have to put the EOTech on a riser to see over the irons or is it tall enough to mount directly to the flat top?

acman145acp
10-01-2005, 03:45 PM
Did you have to put the EOTech on a riser to see over the irons or is it tall enough to mount directly to the flat top?

If you mount a eo flush on the flat top it will put the front sight in the middle of the reticle....

I have a larue mount on mine in the pic above it puts the irons in the lower 1/3 of the riticle....

Hope that helps

DrBaker
10-01-2005, 03:51 PM
If you mount a eo flush on the flat top it will put the front sight in the middle of the reticle....

Hope that helps

Is this what they mean by co-witnessing?


I assume either way works, just find out which one is best for you?

acman145acp
10-01-2005, 04:33 PM
Is this what they mean by co-witnessing?


I assume either way works, just find out which one is best for you?

Ok let me try to explain this without confusing you.
I misworded my original coment.

It will still cowitness even on a riser because the sight is paralex free.
If you shoot nose to charging handle it apears the reticle(red part) moves down to the bottom third of sqaure portion(glass you look through) of the sight the dot in the center of the red circle will be right on top of your front sight post.

With the riser on you can look over the rear sight and look through the square portion of the eo and the front sight will basically be in the bottom 1/3 of the square glass part the red reticle will be in the center or floating left or right depending on how your head is in relationship to the site.

Naturally it's easier to show you than explain.

But once you have the sight zeroed regardless of wheather on a flat top or a riser it will cowitness unless you use one really high riser......
What the riser does is give you the ability to use the sight without having the iron sights obstructing your view.......

I hope I made that somewhat clearer and didn't muddy it up more :hithead:

If I totally confused you I apoligize........

RatTerrier
10-01-2005, 10:09 PM
Take a picture of it already, I know what you mean but you're starting to confuse me!! hahaha

1shott
10-02-2005, 06:54 AM
CO-WITNISS:

When the "dot" on your optics sits on top of, or in line with. the post on your front site.

It how mine was set up at the range, BUT keep in mind it did not line up directly for you, since I shoot left handed.

DrBaker
10-02-2005, 08:12 AM
Ok, help me out here. I'm not completely blind, I can see a little. I'm not a very good shot, but I can hit a few things.

Aimpoint, EOTech, or just stick with the factory irons? From what I've read these seem to be the most popular stuff to use. The rifle will be mostly used for 30yd in-door range shooting and occassional outdoor shoots. I can't see a target 100yds away so I know I won't be attempting any really long shots.

What do you recommend and why?

1shott
10-02-2005, 08:16 AM
Ok, help me out here. I'm not completely blind, I can see a little. I'm not a very good shot, but I can hit a few things.

Aimpoint, EOTech, or just stick with the factory irons? From what I've read these seem to be the most popular stuff to use. The rifle will be mostly used for 30yd in-door range shooting and occassional outdoor shoots. I can't see a target 100yds away so I know I won't be attempting any really long shots.

What do you recommend and why?


All depends on what you want the rifle to do.

You shot mine, what did you think of that set up, EoTech with BUIS? Seems to meet the needs you are looking for.

DrBaker
10-02-2005, 08:23 AM
All depends on what you want the rifle to do.

You shot mine, what did you think of that set up, EoTech with BUIS? Seems to meet the needs you are looking for.


I thought it was about the coolest think I'd ever shot. However, I've never used an Aimpoint and don't know what the differences are. I'm leaning toward doing something similar to what you have, but need to know a little more about the diff Aimpoint type optics.

1shott
10-02-2005, 08:25 AM
I thought it was about the coolest think I'd ever shot. However, I've never used an Aimpoint and don't know what the differences are. I'm leaning toward doing something similar to what you have, but need to know a little more about the diff Aimpoint type optics.


Mine was EoTech 512. Go with the EoTech.

Since your shots will not be out past 100 yards, why would you need magnification? and with the EoTech, you shoot with both eyes open, keeping your peripheral vision in the game.

DrBaker
10-02-2005, 09:50 AM
Mine was EoTech 512. Go with the EoTech.

Since your shots will not be out past 100 yards, why would you need magnification?

Because my vision sucks.


So which EOTech is the best bang for the buck?

acman145acp
10-02-2005, 10:01 AM
Because my vision sucks.


So which EOTech is the best bang for the buck?

If your not getting NV the 512.......
I got the 552 because I plan on getting nv......when money allows.

acman145acp
10-02-2005, 10:03 AM
BTW you can use the aimpoint 3X magnifier with the eo tech

DrBaker
10-02-2005, 10:09 AM
BTW you can use the aimpoint 3X magnifier with the eo tech

What's a good price for the:

512?
552?
aimpoint magnifier?

acman145acp
10-02-2005, 10:31 AM
What's a good price for the:

512?
552?
aimpoint magnifier?

This is where I would start
http://www.gandrtactical.com/

Thats where i got my larue stuff and my 552........best prices I found....none of my suppliers had 552's when I bought mine...

That is all stuff if you dont order in quanity it just isn't cost effective to try to sell if your small time........

You might try jtac supply also .........

DrBaker
10-02-2005, 03:54 PM
I don't really need the ability to add NV so I'll look at the 511/512 models.

It looks like the only diff between those is the battery. If the N batt is 200 hours why not save money and get the 511?

Scott_In_OKC
10-02-2005, 04:03 PM
I would imagine the cost of batteries over time would negate the savings, IMHO.

1shott
10-02-2005, 04:06 PM
Get the 512, go to JTAC home page, give him a call or email, get his price.

The one I have is the 512, takes AA batts, cant lose.

acman145acp
10-02-2005, 09:12 PM
I don't really need the ability to add NV so I'll look at the 511/512 models.

It looks like the only diff between those is the battery. If the N batt is 200 hours why not save money and get the 511?

For me it's battery availability plus I have lots of stuff that uses AA radio's,gps........so I always have extras. Not to mention once the solar panels
come down in price a little I plan on going to rechargeables......

Scott_In_OKC
10-03-2005, 12:35 AM
Here's my AR, thanks to 1Shott and PatrickCudd for the lower and upper respectively.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-4/174110/NGBEX-AR.jpg

I added the BUIS this weekend. Next, I'm going to freefloat the handguard, add a bipod and some optics. Oh yeah, I guess I should shoot it sometime too :wink2:

RatTerrier
10-03-2005, 08:14 AM
Yes *rubbing crystal ball* a free floating handguard is in your future!! Any idea on which brand?? I have a hard-on for the ARMS S.I.R.S. free float handguard/ rail. *sigh* If the damn thing wasn't $360 - $400-ish I'd have one by now...lol.

CAR-AR-M16
10-03-2005, 08:44 AM
Yes *rubbing crystal ball* a free floating handguard is in your future!! Any idea on which brand?? I have a hard-on for the ARMS S.I.R.S. free float handguard/ rail. *sigh* If the damn thing wasn't $360 - $400-ish I'd have one by now...lol.

RatTerrier,

Not trying to sway your decision on the ARMS SIR, but have you ever handled an AR equipped with one? I had an ARMS SIR 45M and I ended up selling it because it was way too wide and felt very uncomfortable to my hand. It is a lot wider than a KAC RAS II. The SIR is very well made and looks really good, I just didn't like the feel of it. If you are dead set on getting one I would suggest one of the slimline versions. Just trying to help, no flame intended on your decision. Take care.

Scott_In_OKC
10-03-2005, 09:15 AM
Right now, I'm looking at this one
http://www.danieldefense.com/products/m4rail7.0handguard.jpg

it's the Daniel Defense M4Rail 7.0 (Carbine). I really like the Troy model, but no one seems to have them in stock.

RatTerrier
10-03-2005, 09:20 AM
RatTerrier,

Not trying to sway your decision on the ARMS SIR, but have you ever handled an AR equipped with one? I had an ARMS SIR 45M and I ended up selling it because it was way too wide and felt very uncomfortable to my hand. It is a lot wider than a KAC RAS II. The SIR is very well made and looks really good, I just didn't like the feel of it. If you are dead set on getting one I would suggest one of the slimline versions. Just trying to help, no flame intended on your decision. Take care.

Why you wanna flame me? hahaha j/king....No I haven't handled one I just love the way it looks. You gave me somethhin to think about and thanks for the headsup about the size of it. I think I'll go with a slimline version. Heck, my old mans 1911 is alot for me to handle so it makes sense to go woth a slimline SIRS. And again thanks for the headsup man! I appreciate it. :thumb:

P.S. Ever get ya one of them 1st Samco Pistol grips for your AR's?? If not.... Wanna try mine out before you decide on purchasing?? :wink2:

DrBaker
10-03-2005, 05:09 PM
Right now, I'm looking at this one
http://www.danieldefense.com/products/m4rail7.0handguard.jpg

it's the Daniel Defense M4Rail 7.0 (Carbine). I really like the Troy model, but no one seems to have them in stock.

How much do the Daniel Defense run?

Are the Surefire M73 any good?

1shott
10-03-2005, 06:28 PM
DD 9.0 for the right price, the whole thing could be yours....

http://fototime.com/A0C648DCA670F2C/standard.jpg

Redfisher
10-18-2005, 06:43 PM
New Colt SBR LE6933
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/redfisher19/92bda755.jpg

Loaded LMT/Bushmaster + +
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/redfisher19/b56beca6.jpg

Another Colt, this one a LE6920

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/redfisher19/eff18a54.jpg

DrBaker
10-18-2005, 06:59 PM
Redfisher welcome to the OSA.

Those ARs have me jelous.

Redfisher
10-18-2005, 07:00 PM
Thank you, and thanks for having me.

Love the site!

DrBaker
10-18-2005, 07:03 PM
I'd love to shoot one of those, but I think you may have a long drive to meet us for a shoot.

Clearwater, FL ?? How did you run into this site?

RatTerrier
10-18-2005, 07:31 PM
Nice lookin toya ya got there!! :thumb:

Mack45
10-18-2005, 07:38 PM
Welcome aboard Redfisher, nice AR's

Ride Da Fire
10-18-2005, 09:30 PM
http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/5930/arsling5cv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/301/mytoy56kw.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/7024/picture0011jq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Redfisher
10-19-2005, 06:54 AM
I'd love to shoot one of those, but I think you may have a long drive to meet us for a shoot.

Clearwater, FL ?? How did you run into this site?


I was doing a "Google Search" on gun classified ads, and there you were.

I almost immediately noticed a member's name that I recognized (1schott) and figured if he's a member, its a respectable place.

As a member of a couple of other similar forums like 1911forum, AR15.com, and MarylandARShooters, and a healthy respect for heartland enthusiasts, I thought I'd sit in on the discussions.

As is customary, I thought I'd contribute in the way of photos of a couple of my ARs.

Thanks again for letting me listen in.

Redfisher

CAR-AR-M16
10-19-2005, 09:37 AM
Redfisher,

Welcome. That's a beuatiful SBR you have there. I really like it. :)

Redfisher
10-19-2005, 03:49 PM
Redfisher,

Welcome. That's a beautiful SBR you have there. I really like it. :)


Thanks, CAR.

I wonder how long I will be able to keep my hands off it.

I have already thought about suppressor, rails, Eotech, (or Aimpoint) etc.

But there is something special about them just the way they are.

dogboy13
10-19-2005, 09:38 PM
Redfisher what is the barrel length on the sbr and what if anything did you have to do to get it to run any recomendations,or if you were to do another sbr what would you do differant?the reason for the questions is i plan on doing one in the very near future

CAR-AR-M16
10-21-2005, 07:51 AM
Redfisher what is the barrel length on the sbr and what if anything did you have to do to get it to run any recomendations,or if you were to do another sbr what would you do differant?the reason for the questions is i plan on doing one in the very near future

It looks like he has a factory Colt 11.5" barrel on his SBR. I have the same barrel on one of my uppers (see page 1 of this thread). Mine has run 100% since I bought it. Didn't need to make any modifications at all. The factory Colt 11.5" barrels have the correct gas port size and chamber reaming to run right. I have also had good luck with the factory Bushmaster 11.5" barrels. I would advise against cutting down a longer barrel. I think doing that is where a lot of people run into problems. Hope that helps.

ETA: CMMG has used Colt 11.5" A1 upper assemlies for $349 if you are intereseted. Here is the link (http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/index.php?shop=1&cart=205664&cat=33&)

dogboy13
10-21-2005, 08:29 PM
upon approval of sbr is there anything else that will need to be done such as engraving the receiver?

DrBaker
10-21-2005, 09:07 PM
Is it legal to buy a complete 11.5in upper if you don't "install" it until after you get proper registration for the receiver? Or do you have to get the receiver registered before you take possession of the short barrel upper?

CAR-AR-M16
10-21-2005, 09:38 PM
Dogboy13,

Yes you would need to engrave the receiver. There is an excellent SBR FAQ section over at AR15.com that should answer all of your questions. Here is a link (http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=14&t=178305)

DrBaker,

NFA laws are often confusing. Technically if you have the short barrel and an AR rifle you are in possesion of an unregistered SBR. Of course you could have the barrel for an AR pistol and most places would sell you a barrel without any paperwork. In my opinion it is best to just wait until you have the approved form 1 in your hands. Why risk it.

Josh-L
10-24-2005, 12:32 AM
Here's my latest. Upper was built by none other than local boy Jason at www.jtacsupply.com
http://members.cox.net/josh-l/JtacRecce1.jpg.JPG

Redfisher
10-24-2005, 07:05 PM
It looks like he has a factory Colt 11.5" barrel on his SBR. I have the same barrel on one of my uppers (see page 1 of this thread). Mine has run 100% since I bought it. Didn't need to make any modifications at all. The factory Colt 11.5" barrels have the correct gas port size and chamber reaming to run right. I have also had good luck with the factory Bushmaster 11.5" barrels. I would advise against cutting down a longer barrel. I think doing that is where a lot of people run into problems. Hope that helps.

ETA: CMMG has used Colt 11.5" A1 upper assemlies for $349 if you are interested. Here is the link (http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/index.php?shop=1&cart=205664&cat=33&)

Good call, CAR-AR_M16!

That Colt is the LE6933, a special order item that I got from a dealer in Pennsylvania. He had 300 made and Colt honored that with a unique model number. He then made 100 available outside Law Enforcement agencies, and I got one of those.

It is built on the LE6921 lower (which customarily is made with the 14.5" barrel)

It is a lightweight barrel (as opposed to the heavy or HBAR) and is 11.5" with 1/7 twist.

Here is the advertisement that I found that led to my owning one---->

http://www.jbarms.citymax.com/i//COLT_ADD_FINISHED_92_copy.jpg

It was somewhat different than the ad portrayed, but no less the value to me.

DrBaker
10-27-2005, 05:21 PM
I bought my Bushmaster a few weeks ago, but still haven't shot it.

I just tried to push out the 2 pins to take the upper and lower apart. Neither pin would budge. My last AR gave me no problems. I just pushed it with my thumb and it slid out. Any tips that will get the pins moving without leaving any marks?

bratch
10-27-2005, 05:27 PM
Work out more :P

You might try oiling the pins or a rubber mallet.

RatTerrier
10-28-2005, 11:12 AM
Josh...NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE lookin gun there! I see that Jason hooked ya up!!

+1 for keepin it local and using JTAC!!

DrBaker
11-04-2005, 05:35 PM
Work out more :P

You might try oiling the pins or a rubber mallet.

One of our new members, JeremyC, PMd me with an idea. Using only whats provided. I took the orange rubber piece that was plugged into the bore from the factory and used it with the magazine(acting as a hammer) to tap out the pins. It worked perfectly.

Shadow
12-10-2005, 07:11 PM
Colt Gov. Carbine M-4 w/ an Acog on deck.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b126/qtrmoa/m-4033.jpg

SPR w/18" WOA barrel and NightForce optics on deck.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b126/qtrmoa/IMG_0774.jpg

Mack45
12-10-2005, 07:37 PM
Nice ARs Shadow, especially like the bottom one. And welcome to the OSA.

Redfisher
12-19-2005, 07:17 AM
I finally took possession of my Colt SBR. My first Stamp! :)

I absolutely love this thing! It is amazing how much more 'handy' the shorties are. Hard to explain, but very nimble to say the least. I am also pleased with the CAR hand-guards than I thought I'd be. Seems to work well with the 11.5.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/redfisher19/sbr671x503.jpg

Redfisher
12-19-2005, 07:26 AM
I finally took possession of my Colt SBR. My first Stamp! :)

I absolutely love this thing! It is amazing how much more 'handy' the shorties are. Hard to explain, but very nimble to say the least. I am also pleased with the CAR hand-guards than I thought I'd be. Seems to work well with the 11.5.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/redfisher19/sbr671x503.jpg

CAR-AR-M16
12-19-2005, 09:04 PM
Very nice Redfisher. Looks great :)

liliysdad
12-19-2005, 10:47 PM
I just got my first AR, and I am in love. I am already envisioning my next AR, a personal build this time.

For now, I have an Armalite M15A2 with a full 16"tube. Collabsible stock, M4 profile bbl, Rock River M4 Handguards, Hogue Grip, and not much else.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c318/liliysdad/PICT0170.jpg
How you like them toes?


The next one will be a Varmint/Precision Tactical rifle. Stag Upper and Lower, 24" bbl, etc. Looks like I will be starting sometime in the spring.

CAR-AR-M16
12-20-2005, 10:18 PM
liliysdad,

How do you like the Hogue Grip? I was thinking about getting one for my rifle.

liliysdad
12-20-2005, 11:46 PM
I aobsolutely love it. I am a Hogueman from way back, but ehis is perhaps the best Hogue Ive felt yet.

If you want, holler at me, and you can check it out, since we are close. Let me know.

CAR-AR-M16
12-21-2005, 11:04 AM
I aobsolutely love it. I am a Hogueman from way back, but ehis is perhaps the best Hogue Ive felt yet.

If you want, holler at me, and you can check it out, since we are close. Let me know.

Thanks for the info and offer. I have heard nothing but good comments about the Hogue grip. I think I will get one today.

NikatKimber
01-05-2006, 08:45 PM
never shot an AR before, but would love to have one. How much appox to build my own, if I went with A3 upper, and more or less plain jain? just want something "fun" to shoot out to 100yds, if that. Actually, something similar to what Scott_In_OKC has... speaking of that, what are those sights on your AR? and what would I expect to pay?
Awesome ARs!
~~Brent~~

DrBaker
01-25-2006, 11:23 AM
The bottom one is my Bushmaster XM15 A3 16in HBAR.

The top one is my current project which isn't complete yet. I just pieced it together to look complete for the picture. All the parts are here, just waiting for a good opportunity to put it together. CMT A3 upper w/Bushmaster 14.5in M4 barrel.

http://x4.putfile.com/1/2411211867.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)

Boldkharma
01-25-2006, 01:12 PM
My bushy

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/Boldkharma/M4orgery.jpg

Jack T.
01-25-2006, 01:25 PM
My two most recent acquisitions. . .

Bushmaster and 870

http://webpages.charter.net/jbhusted/00002.jpg