Carrying loaded long guns in vehicle

[Pigeon]

I read on the Oklahoma Rifle Association site sometime back, legislation has been passed in OK to allow holders of concealed carry permits to transport loaded long guns in a vehicle. Does any one have knowledge of this? Maybe a link to the law?

I think it is great to be able to do this (though I dont think it should require a PERMIT).

[capmarine]

you can carry loaded longguns in your trunk,NOT chambered.

[DrBaker]

you can carry loaded longguns in your trunk,NOT chambered.

I have a tahoe and an extended cab truck. How does this "trunk" option translate to trucks and SUVs? Currently I transport them by placing them in the back seat completely unloaded. Do I have any options to transport them loaded?

Thanks.

[liliysdad]

The recent ammendment to the Ok Self Defense Act allows holders of SDA Licenses to carry a loaded, chambered long gun in the cab of a vehicle, concealed.

We got the legal update a few months back at the PD where I work.

[J.P.]

Is this in *addition* to a handgun?

Anyone have a link handy?

EDIT: I found the link and stickied it in the self defense /ccw forum.

[capmarine]

with SDL i dont see a problem.

[Pigeon]

The recent ammendment to the Ok Self Defense Act allows holders of SDA Licenses to carry a loaded, chambered long gun in the cab of a vehicle, concealed.

We got the legal update a few months back at the PD where I work.

Do you have a link to this amendment, or a statute number to look up?

This is the law I was referring to.

[mons meg]

Oklahoma Title 21, Chapter 53, S.1290

You can find it on www.oscn.net, but I haven't been able to dig up the long gun addition being spoken of here.

Edit: I think I found it...it's actually in S.1289.7 and .13 under the OK Firearms Act of 1971:

Any person, except a convicted felon, may transport in a motor vehicle a rifle or shotgun concealed behind a seat of the vehicle or within the interior of the vehicle provided the rifle or shotgun is not clip, magazine or chamber loaded. The authority to transport a clip or magazine loaded rifle or shotgun shall be pursuant to Section 1289.13 of this title.

S.1289.13:

Except as otherwise provided by the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act or another provision of law, it shall be unlawful to transport a loaded pistol, rifle or shotgun in a landborne motor vehicle over a public highway or roadway. However, a rifle or shotgun may be transported clip or magazine loaded and not chamber loaded when transported in an exterior locked compartment of the vehicle or trunk of the vehicle or in the interior compartment of the vehicle notwithstanding the provisions of Section 1289.7 of this title when the person is in possession of a valid handgun license pursuant to the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act.

Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall be punished as provided in Section 1289.15 of this title.

Any person who is the operator of a vehicle or is a passenger in any vehicle wherein another person who is licensed pursuant to the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act to carry a concealed handgun and is carrying a concealed handgun or has concealed a handgun or rifle or shotgun in such vehicle shall not be deemed in violation of the provisions of this section provided the licensee is in or near the vehicle.



So...still no locked and loaded, but you could carry a shotgun "cruiser ready" behind the seat if I read this correctly. Lilysdad...is this the guidance you got from your department?

[J.P.]

That's the way I read it too.

[mons meg]

Yeah, the major change I noticed in 1289.15 was that they specifically stated "interior compartment" of the vehicle as long as you had a CHL. Well, guess I'm off to grab up that Sub 2000 w/30 round Glock mags... :)

[DrBaker]

Firearms for Dummies-

Load your mags, but leave the pipe empty.

Am I legal?

[mons meg]

That's how I read it, but I'm not *any* kind of lawyer, cop, officer of any court, etc etc.

[LastManStanding]

I read it the same way. I need to talk to that lawyer guy at H&H (name escapes me at the moment) to make sure my "interpretation" is nice and legal though.

[capmarine]

if you carry a loaded firearm,illegally, you can receive a $70.00 ticket.

[AaronT]

I read it the same way. I need to talk to that lawyer guy at H&H (name escapes me at the moment) to make sure my "interpretation" is nice and legal though.

Doug Friensen


I had my SDA classes on monday and wednesday of this week. :gun1:

[liliysdad]

Ok, guys, I just had my Weapons Law class today.

OK Law mandates that carrying a loaded handgun in the passenger compartment of a motor vehicle , without an SDA License,is a 70.00, non arrestable fine. However, carrying a loaded Long Gun, without an SDA License is still an arrestable offense.

Another thing that I was not aware of is that , if pulled over, the officer cannot take posession of your concealed firearm if licensed. He may require you to exit the vehicle, in order to seperate you from the wepon, but he is not allowed to take possession thereof for any reason if no crime has been committed.

[capmarine]

unless he is an idiot im not wasting my time taking some guy to jail for having a loaded shotgun.i work in a rural area where guns are everywhere.

[liliysdad]

Trust me, I am with you on that one. I found it to be a severe oversight on the part of the legislature.

I also found it quite amazing, and sickening, the amount of the rookies who are angry because they cannot haul everyone with a pistol to jail.

Just some fair warning, you guys in Oklahoma and Tulsa Counties, watch out.

[capmarine]

in some states when you have served all your time,in prison,you get all your rights back-what do the feds do about that?here in ok.a felon is a felon forever(exceptions)the feds dont have time or the money to mess with the small stuff-if you are felon and have a gun though-operation exile(i guess it is still in effect)will get you some heavy time.

[liliysdad]

In Oklahoma, felons are allowed to possess a rifle or shotgun, but no handgun. I believe the law states "No felon may possess a pistol, short barreled shotgun or rifle, or any other easily concealable weapon."

This law overrides Federal law in this case. However, Oklahoma statute makes no mention of the ability of Felons to possess ammuniton of any kind. Since this is the case, Federal law stating that it is illegal for felons to possess ammunition is in effect, thus making it legal to possess a rifle or shotgun, but no ammunition for such.

[capmarine]

title 21-1283
the feds will put you in prison for firearms possession.if you have ONE round of ammunition they can put you in federal prison.if you have a picture of yourself holding(seen this in court)a firearm that is all it takes to convict.operation exile and triggerlock will get you years.the feds dont always take cases and in some cases respect court decisions of state courts.

[mons meg]

Lilysdad, did you get an "official" interpretation on the loaded long gun *with* SDA permit? Seems most of us non-LEO/non-lawyer types are of the consensus that it can be loaded, but not chambered, e.g. a "cruiser-ready" shotgun.

I travel through OK county all the time...do I need to print off a copy of the law and have it in the glove box right next to my pocket Constitution? ;)

[capmarine]

if you have your valid SDA im not going to do anything to a person with a loaded and chambered shotgun.

[edgargarrett]

I also found it quite amazing, and sickening, the amount of the rookies who are angry because they cannot haul everyone with a pistol to jail.

Just some fair warning, you guys in Oklahoma and Tulsa Counties, watch out.

I most definitely have never seen that attitude displayed by law officers in central Oklahoma. If it exists, it's rare. Some other parts of the state, maybe. The Stillwater area is the most gun unfriendly town in Oklahoma, in my experience. One might have trouble there. OKC, never!

[mons meg]

Well, Stillwater can be as gun-unfriendly as they want, but I better not get hassled for legal carry under the SDA....I'll be like Dave Chappelle.... I'm rich, beotch!

[Dodgeballz]

Well, Stillwater can be as gun-unfriendly as they want, but I better not get hassled for legal carry under the SDA....I'll be like Dave Chappelle.... I'm rich, beotch!

I carry in Stillwater and I'd be like Dave too.