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boulderado1965
12-16-2005, 09:06 PM
Signed up for concealed carry class Wednesday night at H&H. Don't really know what to expect. Anyone taken the class recently? How hard is the classroom section? Also typical permit receival times?
Thanks,
Boulderado1965

aod93gt
12-16-2005, 09:25 PM
When I took it, it was fairly straight forward. Just pay attention and you'll be OK for the quiz, which is mostly common sense. It took me about two and half months to get my card after I sent out the paperwork.

skyydiver
12-16-2005, 09:51 PM
I agree with what aod said. The class is mostly enjoyable, sitting around talking guns and the law. I took it in the early days, and I remember spending a lot of time worrying about how some of those around me made it out of mall ninja boot camp, but they may have been thinking the same about me.

berettaman
12-16-2005, 10:53 PM
Basic CCW Test.

1.) Bullets come out of which end of the gun.
A.) Front
B.) Side
C.) Back
D.) All of the above.

2.) Bullets go into Revolvers
A.) Sideways
B.) Upside down
C.) Pointy end first
D.) All of the above.

3.) Revolvers have.
A.) Magazines
B.) Cylinders
C.) Radios
D.) All of the above.

4.) Semi-auto Pistols have.
A.) Cylinders
B.) Watches
C.) Magazines
D.) None of the above.

5.) Concealed means
A.) Not in view.
B.) Just the barrel not in view.
C.) Not loaded
D.) All of the above.

6.) You can use your concealed firearm
A.) To track down shoplifters
B.) If someone calls you names.
C.) To defend yourself.
D.) All of the above.

7.) It is unlawfull to
A.) Brandish your weapon.
B.) Threaten the use of your weapon.
C.) Pistol whip punk-a$$ fools who dis you.
D.) All of the above.

8.) A well maintained firearm is
A.) A happy firearm.
B.) A sad forearm
C.) A neglected firearm
D.) All of the above.

:spitlaugh

Seriously though,paying attention and basic common sense will have you passing with flying colors.

JBW
12-16-2005, 10:55 PM
My class in Tulsa was enjoyable enough. common sense is all you need. My instructer kept it interesting.

I had never shot a handgun in my life so I was nervous about the shooting part. So naturally having never shot a gun before I went with something simple like a Glock 38 (.45 GAP). I hit my targets fine, but my groups weren't tight at all. I had to have been the worst shooter in the class, but it was fun.

I received my permit in 49 days!!

Have fun.

Buzzdraw
12-16-2005, 11:33 PM
Class will be about half legal and half gun handling/safety. The multiple guess test is over the first segment of the safety section. It's not that tough; none of my students have ever failed it. The range section is to fire 50 rounds at a large target, up real close without shooting self or doing other major no-no. It is very important to really comprehend the legal, especially certain segments of it that apply to daily carry. In effect, you will be tested daily, in public, on the legal aspects to see if you "got it" in class. The prime purpose of the class,per a legislator I taught, is to make the SDA permitee safe enough that he does not pose an outright hazzard to the general population. That's a resonable expectation from an 8-hour class. The instruction does not include tactics, how to draw from concealment, or any of other many things you may need to adequately defend your self. You have to continue on in your quest for firearms and self defense knowledge to get that.

Scott_In_OKC
12-17-2005, 12:18 PM
The class at H&H is a pretty fun time, I took mine there in late August. Doug Friesen, a local attorney, teaches all the legal section. He's quite a character, and should keep it pretty light. Then you move into general firearm safety and shooting techniques. Next, it's on to the range and shoot. Depending on how many you have in your class, you may have to wait awhile to get on the firing line.

I had to wait about 60 days before I got my license.

Good luck!

DrBaker
12-17-2005, 12:28 PM
From what I hear, H and H has a good glass and it's well structured.

Mine on the other hand, was much different than the rest. Some guy named Bob gave the class in his kitchen. We sat around for about 2 hours doing the lecture part. Most of the people there had never held a gun before. Many didn't bring one, so he started passing out his personal collection to those who came gunless. Some of the others still had their guns in the box. He gave everybody a crash course on how to load a gun and shoot it. We all left and met up at Howards Range. Everybody was blasting everything in sight. Guns were jamming all over the place and nobody knew how to clear their weapon.

I just stood at the very last lane w/ my glock and my fingers crossed. Everybody passed and I didn't get shot.

SMS
12-17-2005, 12:35 PM
You'll learn alot just by listening to the crazy questions people ask...."if I get into a fist fight can I pull my gun"....."can I pull my gun if somone bigger than me looks at me funny" etc....

Doug Friesen's usual respone is "Sure you can pull your gun in that situation, but you're going to end up giving alot of money to somebody like me to stay out of jail"

skyydiver
12-17-2005, 01:14 PM
From what I hear, H and H has a good glass and it's well structured.

Mine on the other hand, was much different than the rest. Some guy named Bob gave the class in his kitchen. We sat around for about 2 hours doing the lecture part. Most of the people there had never held a gun before. Many didn't bring one, so he started passing out his personal collection to those who came gunless. Some of the others still had their guns in the box. He gave everybody a crash course on how to load a gun and shoot it. We all left and met up at Howards Range. Everybody was blasting everything in sight. Guns were jamming all over the place and nobody knew how to clear their weapon.

I just stood at the very last lane w/ my glock and my fingers crossed. Everybody passed and I didn't get shot.

Now THAT sounds hilarious. Especially since the state caps the price, so that you paid for that exactly what you'd have paid a nice place like H&H. I can picture your face as you're in the middle of that. :bah:

AresV
12-18-2005, 10:16 AM
I'll add a few things here.

1. Make sure you know how to properly operate the pistol, including in the event of a malfunction. (You'd be surprised by the number of people who've never learned how to clear a jam in a semi-auto.)

2. DON'T bring a brand new gun to class. Try to bring something you've put a couple hundred rounds through so it's broken in (and you're familiar with how it operates).

3. Try to qualify with a semi-auto so you can carry one later (even if you only plan to carry a revolver at this point in time). If you shoot the course with a semi-auto, you can carry a semi-auto, revolver, or a derringer. If you shoot the course with a revolver, you can only carry a revolver or a derringer. If you shoot the class with a derringer, that's all you'll be licensed to carry).

4. Make sure to be EXTRA, EXTRA cautious in terms of following proper safety procedures when you're on the firing line (not that you shouldn't all the time anyway). Do not put your finger on the trigger until you're ready to fire, never point the gun at anything you don't intend to shoot, treat every gun as if it is loaded, etc. If you cannot safely shoot the weapon, the range instructor will warn you. If he has to tell you again, he'll probably fail you or tell you to come back and take the course again at a later time.

5. As long as your brain can generate enough electricity to keep your heart pumping and you don't fall asleep, you'll be fine in the classroom section.


These are some of the range instructor of the CCW course at H&H's top complaints. I know this because I am very closely related to him.

Buzzdraw
12-18-2005, 03:12 PM
Around 25% of the guns that show up in my SDA classes won't run for 50 trouble-free rounds. Can you imagine the trouble on the firing line if CLEET allowed reloads for the SDA class? They do not, for good reason. The course does teach how to safely load, unload, reload, and otherwise handle a variety of action types. Many students do not know how to field strip their guns for maintenance or how to properly lube. It's on the individual to get an operations manual for their gun and learn how to field strip and lubricate.

It's extraordinarily important to really get the legal. The law does change, so it's important to review it at least once a year, to be aware of the changes. http://www.lsb.state.ok.us/ is the Oklahoma State Legislative website. Title 21, Section 1289 is where many of the applicable Oklahoma laws relating to firearms are found.