GunWorld in OKC?!?

[NavyLT]

Does anyone even step foot in GunWorld on Sunnylane Rd in OKC? Yesterday I bought a .22 metal cleaning jag. It was marked $7.75, they were "nice" and gave me a 10% military discount. Just a couple hours later I wisened up and discovered they were 2.75 to 3.75 online and $3.80 at H&H. (And less than 2.00 from Brownells with discount) I went back and asked for a refund or at least the same price as H&H. Nope - no refunds.

I notice their "memberships" are 3X as much as H&H and they still charge by the hour for range time even if you are a member!

I was dumb. Now I won't even drive into their parking lot to let my dog crap on their grass. Anyone else think this way? Tell all your friends about them too, please!

[amc1]

Gunworld is just mashburns with a facelift.When mashburns was over on the southside they were the highest gun store in the metro.

[Boldkharma]

I used the range once, 12 bucks an hour!!! I also saw a nice Colt 1991A1 stainless in the case for 1500.00!!! I ran out of there!!

[pete156]

But if their prices are so much higher then they must have better stuff and service, right? :thumb:

[Boldkharma]

Well I'm a cheap Bast..d!!!I'd rather have crappy service and buy my handguns at half the price!!:)

[rlt7272]

The 2 times I went to Gunworld it was impossible to buy anything because nobody would give me the time of day. They must have a scanner at the door that reads how much money you have before you come in.

Stick with H&H, they have always been helpful.

Would also like to give a plug for Kings Archery & Pawn in Del City, not the biggest slection but very helpful.

[montesa]

I have only been to GunWorld once. They wanted three hundred something for a makarov and they were very rude. I will never go back.

[DrBaker]

Gun World sucks ass. I have nothing good to say about them.

On Monday I went in because I was in the area and had time to waste. I already knew I was in for a good laugh just like the last few times I went there.

Glock 22 $679
SW 642 $599
Keltec P11 $450

I wanted to ask them why the prices were so outrageous, but I just kept my mouth shut and left laughing on the inside.

[Boldkharma]

H&H :thumb:

[Jack T.]

Isn't that the outfit that has the "No Concealed Weapons" sign out front?

Lemme rephrase that.

Do they *still* have the "No Concealed Weapons" sign out front?

[rlt7272]

I just wish H&H was closer to home. The need to buyout Gunworld that way I could shoot at lunch.

[Boldkharma]

Yea, its 30-40 minutes away from me. Thats why I tried Gunworld. Maybe I should get a small business loan and open up my own range?

[rlt7272]

Yea, its 30-40 minutes away from me. Thats why I tried Gunworld. Maybe I should get a small business loan and open up my own range?

You may be joking, but we need a good range in the MWC/Choctaw area. I hear rumor that someone was going to open an outdoor range north of Harrah.

Boldkharma Gun Range has a nice ring to it.

[Boldkharma]

I'm kinda not joking. I would love to open a range. I do have opportunities for funding, just don't know all the details. I'd have to research. I think it is a profitable business as long as your prices are fair and you have a nice range. Partners? I kinda like "The Blast"
I do have my paperwork for an FFL, just in the process of completing it.

[rlt7272]

There is a need for this service in the eastern oklahoma county area and I bet that partners for this venture would be available. It would be worth researching. I know that there has been a couple of ranges in Midwest City. Both were junky and not well run, but I do not know the details of their closing.

[Boldkharma]

Well then, research is needed. I know that I would ask for comments from regular shooters to find out what they want in a range. I figure if you give the people what they want, they will keep coming back.

[rlt7272]

rangeinfo.org has alot of information.

You are right, I bet that you could build a decent model based on comments feedback from shooters.

[GMThunder]

Gunworld...... one of the shortest visits I've ever made to a gun shop. They should hand out KYlube at the door.

[rlt7272]

They should hand out KYlube at the door.

well put!

[NavyLT]

Yes, King Gun and Pawn on Reno is a good mom and pop place - I bought a plinker .22 from them and so is Brigadoon Mil Surp on Sunnylane - I got my SKS there. I live a few blocks from there and a MWC/Del City affordable range would be great! My wife sent me this, it's kind of fitting:

Wal-Mart Return (should be "Gun World" Return)...

A middle-aged woman went to a Wal-Mart service counter and
tells the clerk she wants a refund for the toaster she
bought because it won't work.

The clerk tells her that he can't give her a refund because
she bought it on 'special'.

Suddenly, the woman throws her arms up in the air and starts
screaming!
"PINCH MY NIPPLES! PINCH MY NIPPLES! PINCH MY NIPPLES!!"

The befuddled clerk ran away to get the store manager in
front of a growing crowd of customers. The manager goes to
the woman and asks, "Ma'am what's wrong?"

She explained the problem with the toaster, and he tells her
that he can't give her a refund because she bought it on
special.

Once again, the woman throws her arms up in the air and
starts screaming, "PINCH MY NIPPLES! PINCH MY NIPPLES! PINCH
MY NIPPLES!" And in doing so draws an even larger crowd!

In shock, the store manager pleads, "Ma'am, why are you
saying that?

In a huff, the woman says, "BECAUSE, I LIKE TO HAVE MY
NIPPLES PINCHED WHEN I'M GETTING SCREWED!"

The crowd broke into applause and her money was quickly
refunded!

[rlt7272]

great, I just spit coffee out my nose. Good Joke!
:yelclap:

[soonerjh]

Maybe I should get a small business loan and open up my own range?

Yes! please do!

[MarkV]

I went there once (because it was close to work) and I don't plan on going back.

[rlt7272]

When I win the lottery tonight, I will open a new range and all of you can shoot for free.

[Bricktop]

For those that care, "Mashburn" Arms is not really MASHBURN Arms.

Art Mashburn was a world-class Oklahoma City gunsmith and cartridge designer who can claim the development of the 7mm Remington Magnum among his many accomplishments. Custom guns that he built pop up fairly regularly at auction and elsewhere (yes, they're worth owning).

He died back in the '70s and his estate sold the business and, apparently, the use of his name to an insolent assclown named Matthews. Matthews supposedly made his money in the oil business (because he sure ain't makin' it in the gun bidness) and also owns Tyler T-Grips, another legendary Oklahoma City-area business that he acquired about ten years ago. (Melvin Tyler had his shop located on Britton just west of Western for many years.)

Unless you just enjoy putting up with a bunch of bullshit, you'd all be well-advised to avoid any of Mr. Matthews' enterprises. :mad:

[OKCGLOCKER]

The guy that runs that place is a total idiot!

Before they moved to their current location I had him place a special order for me. It came from Dallas and he told me it would take only 2 or 3 days. To make a long story short, it took several weeks and when the item finally came in, he tried to charge me nearly double the amount he originally quoted - plus a large shipping fee. After some significantly unpleasant verbal exchanges, he backed off and sold it to me at the originally quoted price.

He has a great looking range, but I'll never set foot in that place again. :puke: :puke: :puke:

I'm amazed that he is still in business with all the bad publicity he gets on the forums. I've NEVER heard or read a good report about that place!

[J.P.]

When I win the lottery tonight, I will open a new range and all of you can shoot for free.
Tagged for future reference.

[stepper]

Ahh, come on, $650 for a glock 19 isn't that bad!!

[rlt7272]

New plan, Gun Range/Strip Club/Sports Bar all in one building.:drooling:

[stepper]

New plan, Gun Range/Strip Club/Sports Bar all in one building.:drooling:

Bad idea. Most of you would blow all your money in the strip club before you even got to the range. :)

[rlt7272]

Good point, scratch that idea.

[ADDO]

I was just leaving Gunworld when Navy LT walked in yesterday.

I went there to use the range even though the price is high. Why? It saves me gas and it was on the way to where I work on Tuesdays. Otherwise, I would go to H&H or to the Firingpin out in Hinton.

Gunworld range is nice. Their prices make me wonder if anyone ever buys there.

When Boldkharma's range opens, I'll be a regular.

[skyydiver]

I'm in Choctaw too and dream of being in the gun business. I don't have much capital, but would be glad to look at getting in on a range out this way or at least working part-time. I have heard that keeping the air and stuff safe is a large expense and hassle. The NRA has a big section somewhere on their site, and I think they have a program to help with at least a knowledge base about range ownership and air filtering, etc...I'll go look see...

[Boldkharma]

Well, I'm a believer in find a need and fill it. Sounds like we need something to the east. I got my thinking cap on!!! I say anyone interested pm me, lets get together and do some thinking!!!

[skyydiver]

Started a new thread with some links to the NRA stuff.

[DrBaker]

Ahh, come on, $650 for a glock 19 isn't that bad!!

$650 is the sale price at GunWorld.

[KAF]

The last time I was stationed at Tinker there used to be a range at 15th and Air Depot. Wasn't the greatest place if i remember correctly. Unfortunately it is now a furniture store.

[1911Sooner]

Gunworld is laughable at very best.

[rlt7272]

I am of the same opinion of Gun World as the other posters. I wonder who is supporting this place? Is this a business of a wealthy man who needs losses for tax purposes, or is it an actual profitable business?

[Bricktop]

CLICK D LINK (http://www.subguns.com/boards/inquiryarchive.cgi?read=25178)

[blake711]

You know the strange thing is there are places like this in everytown. Tulsa has a couple of its own also. I guess the people that shop at these places are sheeple that have never heard of an internet forum.

[AresV]

I am of the same opinion of Gun World as the other posters. I wonder who is supporting this place? Is this a business of a wealthy man who needs losses for tax purposes, or is it an actual profitable business?


+1

I think the only people that buy guns there just don't know any better (i.e. have never been to ANY other gun store - ever) or they are complete fools.

I have a friend who bought a gun there (before I knew him) and I had to bite my tongue when he told me what he had paid for it. Let's just say it was about $500 too high. It was maybe a $750 gun and he paid $1,250-1,300 for it...

The only way I can see them being profitable is through selling their range memberships and then charging the people who are members for hourly range time.

[Hoov]

I remember them when they were on 10th and Penn. I also have two quickies. They charged one elderly lawman $700 for a LE Glock and my other favorite is the guy who paid $259.99 for a .25ACP Raven. Ouch.

[rlt7272]

One last example then I am done. I went to Kings Archery looking for a specific gun. I had bought there before but I was not a regular customer. I told them what I was looking for and it was somthing that they had to order. If I ordered from them they told my up front that it would be higher than if I went to another store. I did not know this and would have paid their price if he had ordered the gun. He did no have to tell me this but he did and that one simple thing had made me a loyal customer and I try to let others know about it.

Yesterday HOOV posted infomation about a sale where he works. He did not have to, he openly said he does not get commission so there is not monetary benifit to him.

So I ask again, with this type of service available, why would anyone want to be treated like crap, and over pay? Thank goodness for forums like this where we can share information.

[olyeller]

Oooooh, good; a gun world bash!
I did my ccw class there, a complete cluster-f***. I was never even wathced as I shot my qualifying pistol. I could have pointed my finger and said "bang" 10 times.
When one of the old instructors saw my piece of crap pistol I was going to use to qualify, he scoffed in scorn at my piece. (it was a piece of crap, though)
I think its a haven for fat non-PD leos that get paid by getting 10% off bs prices so they can strut behind the counter and pose with their sidearms.

The have a couple of ****-old reloading presses and they want like $100 for each of these used, boat anchors.

A SA GI 1911 for $500? They have a kimber target II there for like $1400.

I did get the deal of the century there, a couple of years ago. I paid $300 out the door for a sw .38 j-frame in like new condition.

I bought a pearce mag extender for my glock there last week. $10. The lady at the register said, "is that all youre going to buy?"
I said, "that all I can afford here" as I pulled out a fat gangsta roll and peeled off a $50 to give her.
-idiots.

Im going to print this thread off and send this to them in the mail, when it gets a little longer.

[rlt7272]

Im going to print this thread off and send this to them in the mail, when it gets a little longer.


Good idea, but I doubt that it will help. When you are screwing someone, you usually are fully aware that you are doing it.

[stepper]

You could go to H&H or Outdoor America, buy a gun or two, and still have a nice, fat gangsta roll to show off at Gun World!

[olyeller]

Agreed; I really like outdoor america. The ammo is fair, the guns are fairly priced, and accessories always seem to be a fe bucks under msrp.
Its really hard to get someone to help you there, though.
thats my main beef with them.

You could go to H&H or Outdoor America, buy a gun or two, and still have a nice, fat gangsta roll to show off at Gun World!

[NavyLT]

WooHoo! A four page thread! And a knock-off thread too! You guys honor me! Since someone mentioned their good experience at Kings, let me tell you about my SKS.

I went to Brigadoon's and he had a new box of 5 unissued Yugo's. He had one cleaned up and on display and it was sweet! I offered $150, it was marked $190. Mark said he couldn't do it. I went home and called him back. I offered $170 (I thought that was fair, the online price was a little lower but then there is shipping and transfer). He said come get one.

Naturally, we started looking in the box at the rest because he didn't particularly want to sell me the one he had cleaned all the cosmo off. After finding the defects in the boxed ones, a very disappointed Mark had no problem selling me the cleaned up SKS because it was the best one. He also took about 1/2 hour to show me how to take it apart, where to clean, etc. This SKS is a great shooter! I'll bring it with me on Saturday and some of the two cases of Yugo ammo I got from Mark as well.

With stores that are friendly and seem to be pretty honest, I wish we had the power to shut places like GunWorld down quickly and permanently. Hope to see you all Saturday at H&H, but I will be about an hour late :-(.

Thanks,
John

[J.P.]

Oh man....I've *got* to visit Gunworld!

[rlt7272]

Bring plenty of cash!

[olyeller]

Oh man....I've *got* to visit Gunworld!

-seriously, you cant walk in there and not smirk or laugh to yourself.:nolike:

[J.P.]

-seriously, you cant walk in there and not smirk or laugh to yourself.:nolike:

Oh,I doubt I could keep it to myself. ;)

[jb45colt]

This place reminds me of Shootersworld in Tulsa, without the range. They finally ran their self out of business.

[J.P.]

This place reminds me of Shootersworld in Tulsa, without the range. They finally ran their self out of business.

Yep.
+1

[J.P.]

I watched another local dealer go out of business as well.
He wanted $35 for transfers plus 10% of the cost if a long gun, 15% the cost if a handgun.
Plus he would only transfer guns he approved of.
:nolike:

[stepper]

If Gun World actually sold a gun, it probably paid the utilities, rent, etc. for 6 months because they make so much profit per gun. So, if they sell 2 guns per year, they are breaking even. They could stay in business a long time at that rate.

[Hoov]

Stepper, you nailed it. They don't care. They have to sell just enough to pay for their own coffee shop. Kind of like a Simpsons version of their own personality cult. We vote with our dolllars. I just feel bad for newbies that don't know and get turned off from shooting because of people like that.

[soonerjh]

heres a pic of the range at Gunworld. notice something, its EMPTY!

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f109/soonerjh/gunworld.jpg

[MarkV]

heres a pic of the range at Gunworld. notice something, its EMPTY!

That's exactly the way it looked when I went there but I was about 4-5 lines to the right.

[brennan]

This place reminds me of Shootersworld in Tulsa, without the range. They finally ran their self out of business.


Was this around 21st and Memorial I drove by there yesterday didn't know they were closed, they never had much.

[J.P.]

Was this around 21st and Memorial I drove by there yesterday didn't know they were closed, they never had much.

Yep. 21st and Mem.
I didn't know they were closed either.
I only went there a few times to get the odd relaoding componet.
The used $700 SIG P225s were hard to swallow.

[carready]

:nutkick: I love going to Gun World...It makes me laugh my ass off and feel sooooo good about myself that I am not stupid enough to buy ANYTHING!!
Mr. Math..whatever has alot of great guns if you do not mind paying double the value. Like $20,000 + for a H&K PSG-1.:sweat: I felt so sorry for this man that was in there and had a revo on LAY-A-WAY...the man was wanting to change and put a different gun on LAY-A-WAY and move the invested money over...Mike told him that he was going to lose bout $125 because the man had fired 2 rounds out of the revo...

And do not forget that they will try and convience you that their gun is better and thats why the price mark up.

[Hoov]

Plus the 55%, yes, you read that right, layaway cancellation fee! I guess it is true; they only have to sell like four guns a year.

[carready]

Yep, 4 guns would pay the rent for that year. Too bad for the suckers that buy the four. They could have had 8!

Good call on the cancellation fee...:contract: That will get ya every time!

[Hoov]

Seriously, an impatient friend of mine was slammed for 55%. That almost qualifies for usury laws. Maybe they should sell used TVs.

[F16mickey]

Yep. 21st and Mem.
I didn't know they were closed either.
I only went there a few times to get the odd relaoding componet.
The used $700 SIG P225s were hard to swallow.
I did buy a gun from them but I used the Davidson's site to get competitive bids they just happened to be the lowest. One of the guys there helped me with some reload data for a obscure caliber. but all and all they where normally quite high.

[Okie with a g27]

Quick story...

I heard, I think from Dr. Baker, that Gunworld had coupons in feist or yellow pages last year. So I find a coupon for a drawing for a free gun and some discounted range time. Well, I go there and give them my coupon for the "drawing" and the person looks at me funny and says to Mr. Matthews, What is this? He looks it over and says oh, it's for the drawing, JUST PUT IT IN THE CASH REGISTER! So I proceed to give him my "coupon" for the discounted range time and he says, this is for 30 minutes ( I forgot the price for 30 mintues) You have to pay full price if you go 1 minute over...in a not-so-nice tone. I was desperate to shoot that day and I was already there, so I shot a few boxes, really quickly...I'd hate to pay FULL price in that joint and got the hell out. Needless to say, I didn't win the drawing!

[761mph]

last year they were pawning some of their inventory to stay open

i was also told that they charged a "look at it fee", if you brought a gun in to be worked on you got charged whether they did any work or not

[RyansFortyFives]

I officially hate Gunworld. There prices are outrageous, service is terrible, and their Salesmen are jackasses. I was looking at a little .357 airlite for the wifey, and the salesman started hitting on her while I was stading there! So I dropped the gun on the counter(literally) and said "honey let's go" and we walked out. I called later and gave the "manager" a piece of my mind.

Ryan S.

[DrBaker]

I officially hate Gunworld. There prices are outrageous, service is terrible, and their Salesmen are jackasses. I was looking at a little .357 airlite for the wifey, and the salesman started hitting on her while I was stading there! So I dropped the gun on the counter(literally) and said "honey let's go" and we walked out. I called later and gave the "manager" a piece of my mind.

Ryan S.

I would have dropped it on the floor. :faint:

[DrBaker]

Quick story...

I heard, I think from Dr. Baker, that Gunworld had coupons in feist or yellow pages last year. So I find a coupon for a drawing for a free gun and some discounted range time. Well, I go there and give them my coupon for the "drawing" and the person looks at me funny and says to Mr. Matthews, What is this? He looks it over and says oh, it's for the drawing, JUST PUT IT IN THE CASH REGISTER! So I proceed to give him my "coupon" for the discounted range time and he says, this is for 30 minutes ( I forgot the price for 30 mintues) You have to pay full price if you go 1 minute over...in a not-so-nice tone. I was desperate to shoot that day and I was already there, so I shot a few boxes, really quickly...I'd hate to pay FULL price in that joint and got the hell out. Needless to say, I didn't win the drawing!

I didn't win the drawing either. Nor did I go over my 30minutes.

[Hoov]

It's a wonder they don't have their own parking meters out front!

[DrBaker]

It's a wonder they don't have their own parking meters out front!
:rollingla :rollingla :rollingla

[stepper]

It's a wonder they don't have their own parking meters out front!

:laughup: :laughup:

I can see it now: "sir, we are going to have to add another $20 to your gun purchase for going over on your parking meter."

[TurboDog]

Personally I like the place. I never have to wait to use the range and it is always clean. The target carriers themselves are well worth the extra cost instead of having to shoot at the swinging target. Last time I was at H&H, summertime of course, they wouldn't turn the a/c on even though everybody in there was melting. If you will just take the time to get to know the guys at Gunworld it won't take much to see the virtues of the place. Also, their gun prices aren't set in stone either, just ask someone. You might be surprised.

[NavyLT]

Tell us the truth now.... how long have you worked at Gunworld?!? :fallangel

[SMS]

I don't give a damn if they are the nicest people on the planet....their prices are insane...bordering on gouging.

They are postured to take advantage of young troops from the base whose wallets are fat from their last deployment.

[Hoov]

Turbo Dog, naivety will get you nowhere. Again, how long have you worked there?

[YukonGlocker]

The swinging targets and steamy hot range are for "realistic" training.

I know Gunworld will deal on prices, so will most everyone else. Why do they mark the prices higher than the MSRP from the manufacturer? Answer: to get more money from the sucker that didn't do his homework, or the guy that doesn't know anything about guns to start with.

The target holders at Gunworld are not worth the extra price. Pretty or not, target holders hold targets. The target holders at H&H hold targets. The reason the target holders at Gunworld are so pretty is b/c they have not held that many targets, if you know what I mean!!!!!!!!

What are the virtues of the place???

[stepper]

Do I ask for TurboDog when I go to Gun World?

[stepper]

It ticks me off to no end to have a time limit on the range like they do!!! I can understand if they had people waiting in line and they were packed, but to pay for the time is stupid.

H&H doesn't charge you by the amount of time. I can stand in there and shoot all day if I wanted to, and I had enough ammo of course!

[OKCGLOCKER]

If you will just take the time to get to know the guys at Gunworld it won't take much to see the virtues of the place.

It didn't take long for me to find out the guy I delt with was dishonest, greedy, rude, disrespectful and several other things I probably shouldn't say here. In addition, their range fees AND gun prices are the highest in the metro area.
Why would I want to spend time with someone like that ?????? :smack:

[skyydiver]

Also, their gun prices aren't set in stone either, just ask someone. You might be surprised.

I WAS surprised when I asked the Mr. Matthews if the $450 AKs behind him were the ones that came over as single stack, then were converted to regular-cap by being ground on, and he said "Nope, those are built originally for hi-cap mags."

"Sweet, can I see one?"

"Yup." (Here comes the surprise......)

WASR-10

Does he lie, or does he know nothing about his overpriced product. Don't care, not going back.

[Hoov]

TurboDog, now is your chance to stand up for your beliefs. Where are you? Here boy, here boy... Just kidding. Seriously, jump in, because you are going to need asbestos butt wipe. The flame job you will receive will make you want to join Sigfried & Roy.

[skyydiver]

Turbo, judging by your other post, can I guess you are affiliated with OCSO? Which means you could have co-workers affiliated with GumWorld? It's okay, we aren't nuts, just don't like the store. No biggie, they SUCK!

[Jeffro3006mag]

Yeah...even I had a bad dealing with the "Gunworld Clan". People that know me know that I have a real thing nice optics. Was in the MWC area and thought I needed to check this place out, surely they would have some nice scopes iin there. oneword...Swift...Ii couldnt believe it, they must have spent a fortune on building this over-rated dive...and I get Swift...no Leupold. OK..so i cheated a little..looking at the guns I knew the pricing was WAY over inflated...but you know...like a bad car accident you have to look.
Needless to say thats the last time I ever seriously considered buying anything there...H&H is still too close to get raped. If anyone want more info they can visit the Glock Okie section and there was quite a post there about gunworld.

The gun range that used to be at 15th and Air Depot (the old Apollo theatre for us old people) was a excellent facility. Being from the MWC/Meeker Area it was always a pleasent(SP) experience to go there when I was in town. A friend I grew up with was a member and by the 3rd time I was there the owner knew my name and even let me try a couple of handguns on for size. If there was a way for somebody to make a decent range and make a living doing it it would be a quite a blessing for us living in the eastern edge of the metro.The issues i would look into as well as the range requirements would be the cost of the insurance and licensing fees for anything else that may arise. If someone would like to discuss it PM me...I would like to help in the research if at all possible.

For the record.....Kings Pawn are cool people and reasonably priced..hope they are around for a long time enjoy looking at the inventory from time to time.

Takecare-Jeff

[GMThunder]

Personally I like the place. I never have to wait to use the range and it is always clean. The target carriers themselves are well worth the extra cost instead of having to shoot at the swinging target. Last time I was at H&H, summertime of course, they wouldn't turn the a/c on even though everybody in there was melting. If you will just take the time to get to know the guys at Gunworld it won't take much to see the virtues of the place. Also, their gun prices aren't set in stone either, just ask someone. You might be surprised.


Looks like the feedback got to somebody that works there or..... owns it.

[pete156]

If you will just take the time to get to know the guys at Gunworld it won't take much to see the virtues of the place. Also, their gun prices aren't set in stone either, just ask someone. You might be surprised.

I don't live in OKC, so I don't have anything to personally gripe about the place.

Customers should never need to "get to know the people" at a business before they feel like their being treated right. A business should always put it's best foot forward from the get go. If I don't like my first experience with a place, they will very rarely get a second chance to make it up.

We had an employee for 30yrs that had one of those personalities. I saw many a customer come through here and that a little offended at the way she spoke or acted towards them. She didn't mean anything by it, but it was just the way she was. Some of those same people did end up requesting her year after year because they did finally get used to her, but there were plenty that either never came back, complained, or requested another person when they made their appt. That never did sit well with me even though she was a wonderful woman. Unless a customer is truly being unreasonable then there is never an excuse for them leave here feeling as though they were treated rude or unfairly.

Also, some people, like me, don't want or like to haggle over prices. I've never been comfortable with it and if the price is too high then I just won't buy.

[jmitch12]

I just joined this site ( I thought it would be a good place to get some good info on shooting and guns) I didn't know that it was a personal bash blog. I have been reading through these posting and it seems that most of you know your guns and are fairly intelligent people.....have anyone of you told the owner how you feel...I was always taught that if you are going to talk about someone, to do it to his face instead of behind his back. Most people are in business to make money and if I am not happy with their prices then I just tell them that they are to high and leave. Their is no reason to bash a person or make fun of them behind his or her back. I realize it is easy to do behind a username on a web page......why don't you do it in person so the party can defend their actions...I thought this would be a great site for gun info but so far all I am finding is small people with small vindictive minds talking behind some poor suckers back....not my kind of site...I think I will look somewhere else.....oh and just so you know that I do not hide behind my user name my name is Jim Mitchell.

[pete156]

And of course you are in no way associated with the place.....right?

[brennan]

Whats wrong with posting our personal likes and dislikes. I understand wanting to make money but to people that are uninformed it is gouging.

[jmitch12]

Other than being a customer and using the range...no I am not employed or have any interest in it. I just think if you don't like someone or some business then don't go there. But people bashing is not the way to make change.

[pete156]

But informing a potential uninformed buyer is morally right in my opinion.

I've seen very little bashing and mostly just comments about how much higher they are than everybody else. I hate to say it, but even if it were bashing, that's what the internet is. The free exchange of opinions.

[rlt7272]

If I find a business that treats customers like they should be treated, I like to point it out. I have made several positive posts regarding Kings Archery Brigadoon. I have no business relation ship with either, but I feel like they provide a good service and should be supported. My dealings with Gun World were not positive and I feel that they should not be supported. Will they go out of business because I say I do not like them, probably not. It is not my goal to run Gun World out of business, but there is no reason for anyone to overpay or get bad service if they do not have to.

[skyydiver]

I just joined this site ( I thought it would be a good place to get some good info on shooting and guns) I didn't know that it was a personal bash blog. I have been reading through these posting and it seems that most of you know your guns and are fairly intelligent people.....have anyone of you told the owner how you feel...I was always taught that if you are going to talk about someone, to do it to his face instead of behind his back. Most people are in business to make money and if I am not happy with their prices then I just tell them that they are to high and leave. Their is no reason to bash a person or make fun of them behind his or her back. I realize it is easy to do behind a username on a web page......why don't you do it in person so the party can defend their actions...I thought this would be a great site for gun info but so far all I am finding is small people with small vindictive minds talking behind some poor suckers back....not my kind of site...I think I will look somewhere else.....oh and just so you know that I do not hide behind my user name my name is Jim Mitchell.

Mike Farmer, nice to meet ya. I haven't seen any bashing here, just relating of experiences. In fact, if you look, there are waaay more posts on the site about how much someone likes a business, or was really happy with a transaction. Just so happens that the gripes are concentrated to the one or two places where everyone seems to have been treated badly or seen high prices. I for one have been told at gun world that they were unable to have as good of prices as other places, and that it was due to "size". I didn't buy it, but that's what I was told when "saying it to their face" about the rediculous prices. So before you get your dander up, look a little closer.

Now, Welcome to the site, if you decide to stay. As opposed to hiding behind internet names, most of us have met 2 or 3 of each other, and some many more, meeting at H&H or Hinton or other places. Join the fun. I won't hold it against you that you shop at gun world. I've been there, obviously. :greetings

[Hoov]

It is my humble opinion that the gun business needs to recruit all the new shooters it can. If we leave a bad taste in someone's mouth by overcharging or high pressure sales and they find out about it (they will), then we have left ourselves with a black eye. We need to make shooting as much fun as we can.

[Boldkharma]

This is America, we buy from places that give us good prices and services and disregard the others. This is the American way. Get used to it!!!!! Capitolism(sp) works!!

[SMS]

Jim, I have no obligation to tell the proprietors of Gunworld that their business sucks....I do have an obligation to my fellow gun enthusiasts to warn them of sharks and gougers in our ranks. Althought I barely stiffled a giggle looking at ammo there one day and asked them what they were thinking. I got some schtick about trying to get a new distributor or something and how there ammo was comparable to other places...yeah right.

Call it bashing if you want, I'll bash away all day.

Otherwise welcome to the site.

[rlt7272]

Why shouldn't I try and promote the businesses that I feel gives the best service or has the best prices? In the same light, why shouldn't give my opinion towards businesses that I do not care for? "Word of Mouth" advertising has been around for years, and it applies to both the good and bad.

It is pointless to tell a business like Gun World that their prices are high, they know their mark-up compared to their competition. Letting others know about their prices or service is the point.

This is a great site with alot of good information. However, it takes people posting their opinions to get discussions started. The discussions are where the best information is found.

[SMS]

+1

[mons meg]

A guy here at work has done rangemaster duty over there (when they have people on the range) and he knows the guys and absolutely will not buy from them. Prices simply aren't competitive. It's reality, not bashing.

[Jim Dandy]

have anyone of you told the owner how you feel...I was always taught that if you are going to talk about someone, to do it to his face instead of behind his back. Most people are in business to make money and if I am not happy with their prices then I just tell them that they are to high and leave. Their is no reason to bash a person or make fun of them behind his or her back.You betchum, Little Beaver. I told you -- or your boss, Mr. Matthews, if that's the case -- that I didn't like his attitude or the way I was treated when I stopped to ask your "gunsmith" a question about my Auto 5 in April of 1994 when your operation used to be located on Penn. You just didn't care. You insisted that I check my gun in for service and pay a service charge for a work estimate, even though I EXPLICITLY stated that I wasn't sure I was ready to spend any money. You stated, and I quote, "Look, we're not going to look at it for free." Real-damned-customer oriented. In fact, your attitude hadn't changed markedly from the time I previously visited your shop in the fall of 1987. You just don't care.

There was a time when I thought maybe, just MAYBE it was me. Until I started chatting with the guys with whom I shot sporting clays at Tri City Gun Club. You don't reserve your generally nasty and arrogant attitude for any one person or group, you're an equal opportunity jackass.

I think the REAL reason you moved to MWC was to take advantage of the transient traffic offered by Tinker Field. Because none of the local shooting community will spend any money with you. At least not if they're smart.

So let's just cut the crap, "Jim Mitchell," and disclose your TRUE relationship with Mashburn Arms/Gunworld.

[GMThunder]

I just joined this site ( I thought it would be a good place to get some good info on shooting and guns) I didn't know that it was a personal bash blog. I have been reading through these posting and it seems that most of you know your guns and are fairly intelligent people.....have anyone of you told the owner how you feel...I was always taught that if you are going to talk about someone, to do it to his face instead of behind his back. Most people are in business to make money and if I am not happy with their prices then I just tell them that they are to high and leave. Their is no reason to bash a person or make fun of them behind his or her back. I realize it is easy to do behind a username on a web page......why don't you do it in person so the party can defend their actions...I thought this would be a great site for gun info but so far all I am finding is small people with small vindictive minds talking behind some poor suckers back....not my kind of site...I think I will look somewhere else.....oh and just so you know that I do not hide behind my user name my name is Jim Mitchell.

There is a difference between a good businessman/business and trying to literally screw everyone that walks in the door. The people in this thread educated themselves of the prices of the weapons they intended to purchase. I'm sure most of them don't mind a little price hike to support local business. However, if their prices are universally too high for people that weren't born 5 min ago then let's call the spade a spade, shall we? I'm not going to go argue with the place about their prices. It is their choice. In the same respect I don't shop at Albertson's.... and you definately won't see me go in and argue about their high prices on groceries. They are quite aware of their prices just like everyone else. My absence and lack of business speaks for me.

[olyeller]

I agree;
What could I say to them;
"hey, you guys ran a b.s. concealed carry class back when I took it here, and, oh yeah, your prices are so wacked i cant even look at them with a straight face. Oh, and your staff reeks of ignorance."

I prefer to smile!

[blake711]

I agree;
What could I say to them;
"hey, you guys ran a b.s. concealed carry class back when I took it here, and, oh yeah, your prices are so wacked i cant even look at them with a straight face. Oh, and your staff reeks of ignorance."

I prefer to smile!

I third that agreement. You could say exactly what olyeller said and their response. So leave if you don't like it. Simply becasue they are a predatory company that only cares to rip off the uneducated. There are a ton of those uneducated people still out there unfortunatly or crapholes like this would be out of bizness. It takes longer for some places than others but sooner or later places with bad service get wiped out.

As for haggeling I personnaly don't care for it. On a car or a house sure, on a gun or something smaller I just don't care to waste my time. I will do it but honestly I figure why should I have to haggle if their prices were inline even a bit higher than online I would just pay it. If they are selling something where I can get it online and still save 25% after ffl and shipping I ain't wasting my time haggeling. I generally don't ever ask for price breaks at places that give me good service. I know they are in bizness to make money. If they earn my repeat service they earn me paying full price is my take. If a place gives everyone their family discount they can't stay in bizness.

Case in point. If I want a new g19 I can go to OPS or Academy and get one for 500 + tax without issues. Don't have to haggle or any bullsheit. I promise you there are atelast 3 shops in Tulsa that are trying to sell a G19 for 579 or more. Please explain why I should have to ask them to lower their price rediculous price? They would just as soon rip me or someone else off as lower their price. So thats really my take if it ain't a decent price I ain't wasting my time haggeling with someone that wanted to screw me. Put a decent price on it and I will buy it. Sell it at 525 and treat me right and I will buy it. Don't be a predatory sales man though and try and screw the unedjucated. Thats makes me angry. I tell people all the time hey don't purcahse that here. Go to x or y they will sell it to you for xyz. I have been asked to leave stores before for telling someone they were gonna get ripped off. Oh well I leave and normally the person thanks me that just got saved from getting cornholled on that purchase.

[jmitch12]

In response to Jim Dandy......I do not like people insinuating that I am A liar and the way you are talking, thats what you are doing...my name is Jim Mitchell and I do not work for gunworld....I am a customer and I have always been treared good by everyone there. Ypu say this is a place for disscussion and opinions and not bashing....well the way you "Jim Dandy" act it is not ok if I give you my opinion.....and when I do you insinuate that I am lying and not even using my real name......Your attitude certainly gives "good marks" for this site, they ought to make you their ambassador of good will. So why don't you "cut the crap".

[carready]

Most of us gun nuts still belive in Pride, Honesty, Honor, ect. and most HATE to go looking through all the bull:censored: to find a new car. Really most of us just did not expect to find a gun business/range being run like an overpriced car lot.:contract:

jmitch12: So far all here on this site have been very informative and fare for the short time I have been a member. People just do not like being treated like they are stupid when it comes to things that they are quite well versed in, nor do they like being ripped off or fellow shooters being ripped off. We try to look out for one another thats all. And unfortunatly we expected that from Gunworld and thats why some are so angry. kinda like buying a lemon.

[olyeller]

jmitch,
I didnt give you any crap; you dig gunworld, Im cool with that.
-but very seriously, do you hang out there or just go in and shoot? Have you bought any guns there, or ammo?
Ever been anywhere else shooting?
Are you an leo?

[jmitch12]

I go in and shoot almost every Saturday and I have bought several guns there. I know that they are higher than others but I can honestly say that they have always treated me good and the service has been good. It is convienent from where I live and I get a free lunch every Sat. With a little horsetrading I did not always pay their listed price on the guns I bought. I don't like driving all around looking for cheaper prices...but thats "my thang"...to each his own.
And no I am not a Leo...why.

[264Magnum]

What's this talk about a free lunch? High prices or not, I don't turn down free food.

[olyeller]

Cause all those guys at gun world are hooked up, I was just curious.And no I am not a Leo...why.

[stepper]

I go in and shoot almost every Saturday and I have bought several guns there. I know that they are higher than others but I can honestly say that they have always treated me good and the service has been good. It is convienent from where I live and I get a free lunch every Sat. With a little horsetrading I did not always pay their listed price on the guns I bought. I don't like driving all around looking for cheaper prices...but thats "my thang"...to each his own.
And no I am not a Leo...why.

Hey, I'm glad you enjoy going there and they treat you right. You are the only person I have EVER heard say that about Gun World. Your opinion is valued here, and I for one, don't want you to feel like you can't state your opinion and get bashed for it. (As long as your opinion falls within forum rules.)

Thanks for posting!

[jmitch12]

What's this talk about a free lunch? High prices or not, I don't turn down free food.
To Magnum...Every Saturday Gunworld caters a free lunch and any customer can eat for free.....first come first serve till gone.

[stepper]

To Magnum...Every Saturday Gunworld caters a free lunch and any customer can eat for free.....first come first serve till gone.

That is very cool!

What kind of food?

[jmitch12]

Thanks Stepper.

[jmitch12]

It ranges from chili to grilled pork chops with mashed potatoes and gravy. Something different every Saturday.

[264Magnum]

What kind of food?
Free...That's all that matters.:smack:

[stepper]

Free...That's all that matters.:smack:

:werd:

[jmitch12]

I have been surfing some of the other forums on this site and you can pickup a lot of good info on this site.

[brennan]

How much is membership and what are range fees?

[stepper]

How much is membership and what are range fees?

Do you make at least $250,000 per year? :selfangel

[jmitch12]

The fees are $12.00 an hour for first shooter, 8.00 for next shooter and 4.00 for third...you can have yp to three on a lane. I have never seen anyone keep a time on the lanes except for one afternoon when they had a security class using half the lanes and their were people waiting. I have seen people stay in more than an hour more often than not. They have different memberships...mine is a platinum..$350.00 per yr. for family ( I take my daughters now & then) and if you shoot once a week like I do then it is a savings of around 274.00, it works for me.....and I have never been told to get off the range becayse I ran over on time. They have different levels of memberships, I don't remember the cost of the others.

[J.P.]

You betchum, Little Beaver. I told you -- or your boss, Mr. Matthews, if that's the case -- that I didn't like his attitude or the way I was treated when I stopped to ask your "gunsmith" a question about my Auto 5 in April of 1994 when your operation used to be located on Penn. You just didn't care. You insisted that I check my gun in for service and pay a service charge for a work estimate, even though I EXPLICITLY stated that I wasn't sure I was ready to spend any money. You stated, and I quote, "Look, we're not going to look at it for free." Real-damned-customer oriented. In fact, your attitude hadn't changed markedly from the time I previously visited your shop in the fall of 1987. You just don't care.

There was a time when I thought maybe, just MAYBE it was me. Until I started chatting with the guys with whom I shot sporting clays at Tri City Gun Club. You don't reserve your generally nasty and arrogant attitude for any one person or group, you're an equal opportunity jackass.

I think the REAL reason you moved to MWC was to take advantage of the transient traffic offered by Tinker Field. Because none of the local shooting community will spend any money with you. At least not if they're smart.

So let's just cut the crap, "Jim Mitchell," and disclose your TRUE relationship with Mashburn Arms/Gunworld.

Jim Dandy,
If your account of the story at GW is true,it is truly unfortunate and frankly beyond reproach but you are certainly welcome to take up your problems with anyone privately.
That said,we are not going to run a free-fire flame war site over here.
There are other places of which you are very familiar where flames and personal attacks are welcome but this is not one of them.
You are well aware of this

[Jim Dandy]

In response to Jim Dandy......I do not like people insinuating that I am A liar and the way you are talking, thats what you are doing...my name is Jim Mitchell and I do not work for gunworld....I am a customer and I have always been treared good by everyone there. Ypu say this is a place for disscussion and opinions and not bashing....well the way you "Jim Dandy" act it is not ok if I give you my opinion.....and when I do you insinuate that I am lying and not even using my real name......Your attitude certainly gives "good marks" for this site, they ought to make you their ambassador of good will. So why don't you "cut the crap".You go right ahead and tell your story however you want, big guy. I'm not the one who needs convincing, nor do I need to clear my conscience.

Anytime you're ready, just let us know if "Jim Mitchell" is some nom de guerre you've created to hide your true identity or exactly what your relationship is to Mashburn/Gunworld. Because it's very apparent that you have more than just a passing interest as a casual customer.

[Hoov]

I had a customer come in yesterday who is in the military. I asked him twice to make sure, but he said that Gun World wanted to charge him to do the 4473. They called it an application fee.

[stepper]

I had a customer come in yesterday who is in the military. I asked him twice to make sure, but he said that Gun World wanted to charge him to do the 4473. They called it an application fee.

Wow. I haven't ever gotten that far there, so I wouldn't know about that. :bigeye:

[kgull85]

Is GunWorld run by the same people that run Tulsa Firearms? They sound very similar.

[J.P.]

You go right ahead and tell your story however you want, big guy. I'm not the one who needs convincing, nor do I need to clear my conscience.

Anytime you're ready, just let us know if "Jim Mitchell" is some nom de guerre you've created to hide your true identity or exactly what your relationship is to Mashburn/Gunworld. Because it's very apparent that you have more than just a passing interest as a casual customer.

C'mon,
how many times are you going to do this?

[pete156]

Probably until you give em the royal smackdown. ;)

[skyydiver]

Hey, I'm glad you enjoy going there and they treat you right. You are the only person I have EVER heard say that about Gun World. Your opinion is valued here, and I for one, don't want you to feel like you can't state your opinion and get bashed for it. (As long as your opinion falls within forum rules.)

Thanks for posting!

I agree with Stepper, but I think a retraction about us all being simple minded little men or whatever is completely in order. I'm just sayin'. :kiss:

[jmitch12]

I agree with Stepper, but I think a retraction about us all being simple minded little men or whatever is completely in order. I'm just sayin'. :kiss:
To skydiver,
Your right, I had no business grouping everyone into the same catigory....at this time have only found one in that fits that bill...my appologies to the rest of you people...Jim

[skyydiver]

I am? Tell my wife, please.

[Jim Dandy]

To skydiver,
Your right, I had no business grouping everyone into the same catigory....at this time have only found one in that fits that bill...my appologies to the rest of you people...JimSo, uh, what percentage do you currently own in the Mashburn/Gunworld/Tyler's T-Grip empire? Or are you just the webmaster these days?

Certainly someone who was "just a customer" wouldn't give a damn what anyone else thought about a particular business. It's no sweat off your ass. But you're not "just a customer," are you?

We can end the charade anytime you want, big boy.

[jmitch12]

So, uh, what percentage do you currently own in the Mashburn/Gunworld/Tyler's T-Grip empire? Or are you just the webmaster these days?

Certainly someone who was "just a customer" wouldn't give a damn what anyone else thought about a particular business. It's no sweat off your ass. But you're not "just a customer," are you?

We can end the charade anytime you want, big boy.
What is your problem....I have no percentage in GW....I use GW and have been treated good......from what you say in 1994 you were treated badly....I have been going to GW since July of '05 and know for a fact that the employee's that are ther have been their less than a year, so other than the owner no one is left from '94....besides that all I am saying is that I have been treated well. Where ever you shoot...I am sure you don't mind taking up for it if you here something negetive....I go to GW enough that I have come to know all the employees and have become friendly with them...as I am sure you have become friendly with the employees where you shoot....that is if you can be friendly....all I have got from you is hostility and called a liar......but as I was saying when you go to a range and enjoy yourself you usually become friendly with the people their and I am the type of person that if someone treats me nice and gives me good service why should I not have a right to take up for them....it is called loyalty......Just like the fact that I served and am loyal to my country....even though their is a lot of people that bash our government and maybe some have a reason but it still my country and I am going to be loyal. Just like I would be loyal and take up for you if you were ever friendly enough for me to want to back you up. SO "BIG BOY'" GET OFF MY BACK, I HAVE JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO VOICE MY OPINION AS YOU DO...SO CUT THE CRAP.
Jim Mitchell

[Okie with a g27]

Don't feed the trolls!!!!!!

[Jim Dandy]

SO "BIG BOY'" GET OFF MY BACK, I HAVE JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO VOICE MY OPINION AS YOU DO...SO CUT THE CRAP.
Jim MitchellUh-huh. So would it be fair to also call you a HYPOCRITE? Because that's what you are. If you have the "right" to express your "opinion," don't the other people who participated in the thread? A yes or no answer will suffice.

I just joined this site ( I thought it would be a good place to get some good info on shooting and guns) I didn't know that it was a personal bash blog. I have been reading through these posting and it seems that most of you know your guns and are fairly intelligent people.....have anyone of you told the owner how you feel...I was always taught that if you are going to talk about someone, to do it to his face instead of behind his back. Most people are in business to make money and if I am not happy with their prices then I just tell them that they are to high and leave. Their is no reason to bash a person or make fun of them behind his or her back. I realize it is easy to do behind a username on a web page......why don't you do it in person so the party can defend their actions...I thought this would be a great site for gun info but so far all I am finding is small people with small vindictive minds talking behind some poor suckers back....not my kind of site...I think I will look somewhere else.....oh and just so you know that I do not hide behind my user name my name is Jim Mitchell.

Anytime you want to clear the air with the nature of your true relationship to Mashburn/Gunworld would be just peachy, Sport. Someone who is "just a customer" shouldn't take offense that other people have an opinion about a business. Even if it's a dishonest one. That seems to be a pattern with you thus far.

shill (P) Pronunciation Key (shl) Slang n. -- One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle.

CLICK D LINK (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=shill)

[Mack45]

Come on Jim Dandy, lets tone it down a bit. I am glad to see you back but ease up man. Also 10 pages of bashing even a deserving business is enough. I think it's time to let this thread just die out.

[OKCGLOCKER]

Come on Jim Dandy, lets tone it down a bit. I am glad to see you back but ease up man. Also 10 pages of bashing even a deserving business is enough. I think it's time to let this thread just die out.


AMEN !!!! Please... enough's enough.

[SMS]

No way....keep it going until Gunworld sees the light or goes out of business.

We have to continue to educate every gun owner in the greater OKC area.

[kgull85]

Jim Dandy,
If your account of the story at GW is true,it is truly unfortunate and frankly beyond reproach but you are certainly welcome to take up your problems with anyone privately.
That said,we are not going to run a free-fire flame war site over here.
There are other places of which you are very familiar where flames and personal attacks are welcome but this is not one of them.
You are well aware of this

C'mon,
how many times are you going to do this?

Jim Dandy....can you not take a hint? Or even a flat out cease and desist order?
:smack:

[jmitch12]

Uh-huh. So would it be fair to also call you a HYPOCRITE? Because that's what you are. If you have the "right" to express your "opinion," don't the other people who participated in the thread? A yes or no answer will suffice.



Anytime you want to clear the air with the nature of your true relationship to Mashburn/Gunworld would be just peachy, Sport. Someone who is "just a customer" shouldn't take offense that other people have an opinion about a business. Even if it's a dishonest one. That seems to be a pattern with you thus far.

shill (P) Pronunciation Key (shl) Slang n. -- One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle.

CLICK D LINK (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=shill)
Your right everyone has a right to voice their opinion and maybe I was to critical of this site for a first tme visitor and I appologized for that....but you are wrong about me and are just not going to change your mind so I will not respond to you here after....I will just go to other more informative areas of this site where I can gain more knowledge about guns and shooting.....Jim Dandy I wish you well and you can have this thread.

[Just Some Guy]

Your right everyone has a right to voice their opinion and maybe I was to critical of this site for a first tme visitor and I appologized for that....but you are wrong about me and are just not going to change your mind so I will not respond to you here after....I will just go to other more informative areas of this site where I can gain more knowledge about guns and shooting.....Jim Dandy I wish you well and you can have this thread.Maybe the OSA range party should be hosted at Gunworld.

[Hoov]

N F W!!

[DrBaker]

Maybe the OSA range party should be hosted at Gunworld.

I didn't get rich by throwing my money away. :contract:

[TurboDog]

Jim, looks like its just you and me for the party. No waiting lines for us then. How about next Saturday, say around (free) lunch time?

[GMThunder]

Jim, looks like its just you and me for the party. No waiting lines for us then. How about next Saturday, say around (free) lunch time?

Oh I'm sure everyone will be OK...... they could save enough on a firearm purchase from a few other gun stores in OKC and have enough left over to treat themselves to dinner at a prime steakhouse.

[J.P.]

I think everyone has made their point.
Let's let this subject die or at least quit with the jabs.

[MDT]

Wait wait...I want in on one of the longest OSA threads!!!!

Uhhhhh.......YEAH, WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAYS!!!!!:censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:


Oh yeah baby...I'm in.......

[RKM]

OK guys - I am new here - but here is the skinny on Gun World. I have a friend that was hired to audit the old Mashburns (on Eastern Ave.) a couple of years ago. He was hired by an attorney who had invested in the shop. The attorney actually went to the store and when he saw the prices of the guns he went a purchased a Gun List magazine to compare prices. Guess what? After looking at the magazine he realized that his "investment" was being overpriced. Yeah they were padding their prices so they could tell investors that they were making money.
Does that make sense? This should explain why they have $700.00 Glocks.

[Just Some Guy]

OK guys - I am new here - but here is the skinny on Gun World. I have a friend that was hired to audit the old Mashburns (on Eastern Ave.) a couple of years ago. He was hired by an attorney who had invested in the shop. The attorney actually went to the store and when he saw the prices of the guns he went a purchased a Gun List magazine to compare prices. Guess what? After looking at the magazine he realized that his "investment" was being overpriced. Yeah they were padding their prices so they could tell investors that they were making money.
Does that make sense? This should explain why they have $700.00 Glocks.Imagine that.... :lookaroun

[OKCGLOCKER]

Shocking :shocked:

[Mack45]

Let it die guys, enough is enough, I don't like to lock threads.

[blake711]

Let it die guys, enough is enough, I don't like to lock threads.
J.P.s not gone a day and the new supermod is already flexing his muscle. IBTL

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5683/superboy6lt.jpg

[J.P.]

And you know how mods feel about "IBTL" posts....

[skyydiver]

Can I get a hug? Anyone? (wind blows)....

[Mack45]

Oh come on Blake, Who says I got any muscle???

[pete156]

*squeezes Mack's upper arm*

Feels pretty good to me. ;)

[DrBaker]

*squeezes Mack's upper arm*

Feels pretty good to me. ;)

Uhh Pete, there's a reason why that call that a *BI*cep. I'd recommend not touching those anymore.

[pete156]

Damn, thanks for the head up there doc. I was wondering why I was starting to get all tingly. :wink2:

[stepper]

:puke: :puke:

[J.P.]

^^^
What Stepper said....

[surpip]

I watched another local dealer go out of business as well.
He wanted $35 for transfers plus 10% of the cost if a long gun, 15% the cost if a handgun.
Plus he would only transfer guns he approved of.
:nolike:
h&h wants 50 bucks for a transfer
is there anywhere cheaper?
i agree gun world is garbage, there is a navy guy that works there, dude is a dumbass, he was my instructor for my qual on base.

[GMThunder]

h&h wants 50 bucks for a transfer
is there anywhere cheaper?

Bob Morris of Morris sporting goods..... South OKC.... $10

[stepper]

h&h wants 50 bucks for a transfer
is there anywhere cheaper?
i agree gun world is garbage, there is a navy guy that works there, dude is a dumbass, he was my instructor for my qual on base.

$50 bucks!!!!!!! :bigeye: :bigeye: :bigeye:

Thats the highest I've ever heard! That is ridiculous! :smack:

It makes me mad when people do that just because they can.

[surpip]

ya, i asked the dude at H&H and he was like "ya thats pretty standard in OKC for a transfer fee."
i had some stuff shipped to gun world, the wanted 45, but i told them the the dude at the counter said 35(he did) and after some bickering on my part they finally did it for 35.

[stepper]

Have you tried that gun shop in Yukon? Savage Arms?

[Cowman]

Ck some pawn shop for fees. The Alamo in Chickasha does them for 20.00.
Wonder what Gene Sears shop charges. He is in El Reno. There are some good guys at H and H. But, they want to sell you a gun.

[surpip]

Have you tried that gun shop in Yukon? Savage Arms?
i was just told about that, ill check it out for sure
just with my funky work scedule its hard to find time to do it.

[NavyLT]

i agree gun world is garbage, there is a navy guy that works there, dude is a dumbass, he was my instructor for my qual on base.

Navy guy at GW? Now I am bummed.... I'll have to see if I can figure out who it is and call him in for some counseling :smack: ...

[GMThunder]

Savage Arms charges $35 a transfer last time I was in there

[UnSafe]

Bob Morris of Morris sporting goods..... South OKC.... $10

A big +1 for Bob.
http://members.cox.net/morrissportinggoods/

I drive 40+ miles to do business with him, which may negate the savings of the $10 transfer fee, but he's absolutely honest and extremely efficent. Plus, he's got FFL copies on file with all of the major vendors and communicates well via E mail and phone, which makes ordering easier.

The guy that runs Alamo in Chickasha was clueless about the AWB sunset, so I took a copy of the BATFE news release to him with the intent of buying some regular capacity LE marked Glock mags. He wanted to confirm the info, so I returned to purchase several days later. He raised the prices from $20 to $28 per mag.

More recently, a friend bought a regular grade $69 Mosin M44 from him, minus accessories, for $99. What a steal..

I will not do business with Alamo.

[1911Sooner]

Wow Savage must of gone up. I think I paid them $25, but that was a long time ago.

[surpip]

Navy guy at GW? Now I am bummed.... I'll have to see if I can figure out who it is and call him in for some counseling :smack: ...
i think he is a gm1
blond
stupid
you can't miss him:thumb:

[dogboy13]

try these guys out they are out in tuttle good people http://www.randgfirearms.com/

[DrBaker]

try these guys out they are out in tuttle good people http://www.randgfirearms.com/

+1

[Hoov]

+2 The guys at RandG are good guys. Sorry to hear that there is a GW part deaux (or duh!) in Chickasha.

[firing pin]

Transfers I charge $25. I'll charge the members of this board $10.

If your a member.

Thanks in advance

[old_ironsights]

Bob Morris is my choice for FFL guys. I've done business with him for years and he's a straight-up guy.

Miles Hall just enlarged H&H in a major re-construction, and the next phase will be the construction of more firing lanes.

I wasted my time at Gun World once. I wouldn't walk across the road to do business with them if the only other gun dealer was 100 miles away.

[Boldkharma]

+1

[Quail Fat]

Weird. I actually saw a used Glock 30 for sale at Gunworld for $425. I didn't buy it, it looked worn out.

[YukonGlocker]

It was probably missing the barrel.

[DrBaker]

It was probably an airsoft.

There. Fixed it for you.:thumb:

[Quail Fat]

It was probably missing the barrel.

The plastic sites were mashed down, the rest of the gun looked like somebody put it in a cement mixer and let it tumble for a few weeks. The G21 that was tortured over at ar15.com looked pristine in comparison.

[RKM]

According to GunWorld the condition of the Glock is "slightly used".:bigeye:

[NavyLT]

OMG! Is this thread STILL going on!!

[SMS]

:nutkick:

Rock on!

[Hoov]

I think it should be it's own category. I heard two more horror stories from customers yesterday. Unfortunately, one lady had laid down her money.

[USDefender]

I'm in Tulsa so I've never even heard of 'Gun World' in OKC. We have a shop, here, by that name... but I like them & their prices are pretty decent with pretty good service.

From all of your descriptions, your 'Gun World' sounds like a front company for something else... JMPM (Just my paranoid mind). The logic being: How else could they stay open with behavior, prices, & policies like theirs?

I also know that we had a store like that here in Tulsa (one that was a front for recruiting into a militia or some such) that has since closed its doors. I accidentally ran across it on a day off when I was looking into gun stores in my area. They acted just like you describe the people at 'Gun World' as acting & had unusually high prices on a very small selection of guns.

Things that make you go 'hmmmmmmmm.......'.

[M&P]

On the weekend they opened few years back a younger gentleman sold me a new Mossberg Persuader For $210 out the door. After it was all said and done and paid the older guy freaked and wanted to cancel the sale..........nope I got my paid receipt in my hand and my shotgun to bad for you train your staff better.

[criticalbass]

Back from the dead thread graveyard!

I was not a forum member when this all went down. Just wasted a fraction of my remaining lifespan reading every word on all 13 pages.:censored:

The one useful thing I can add is that they tried to sell me Winchester 9x23 ammo for a Largo chambered pistol. Admittedly, it will fit, but it is so much higher pressure it is very likely to result in a catastrophic:bigeye: failure of any Largo chambered weapon. It will even destroy a Destroyer carbine which is a Spanish bolt-action rifle chambered for Largo 9x23.

The GW salespeople told me that their gunsmith:lookaroun said it was okay to use the Winchester 9x23 in Largo guns. I told them in no uncertain terms that they were wrong:smack: and courting a huge lawsuit if someone took their advice and got hurt. They seemed to listen and said they would check it out. I hope they did.

I have spent a lot of time in Lawton:puke: . There are some businesses there which are based on gouging every young soldier who comes to Fort Sill once. Since Tinker is so close to GW, it appears that the same mentality may be in place there.

I go there now and then for amusement, and have shot there in complete privacy a couple of times. Got yelled at on the PA system for loading a magazine, completely separate from the gun, on the rear bench behind the firing line (gun was left on the firing line). I did not complain--their range, their rules.

I have never seen so many items priced so unreasonably in one store. CB

[shooterdc9]

Brazilianboy,

I would listen to Crticalbass if I were you. He knows what he's talking about. One other thing about H&H, They have great classrooms for taking classes on gun safety. They are quiet large rooms with well qualified instructors on staff. I get down to H&H at least a couple of times a week on weekends. My name is Pete. Most all of the staff knows me, just ask them to page me and I'll buy you a coke. :hithead:


Back from the dead thread graveyard!

I was not a forum member when this all went down. Just wasted a fraction of my remaining lifespan reading every word on all 13 pages.:censored:

The one useful thing I can add is that they tried to sell me Winchester 9x23 ammo for a Largo chambered pistol. Admittedly, it will fit, but it is so much higher pressure it is very likely to result in a catastrophic:bigeye: failure of any Largo chambered weapon. It will even destroy a Destroyer carbine which is a Spanish bolt-action rifle chambered for Largo 9x23.

The GW salespeople told me that their gunsmith:lookaroun said it was okay to use the Winchester 9x23 in Largo guns. I told them in no uncertain terms that they were wrong:smack: and courting a huge lawsuit if someone took their advice and got hurt. They seemed to listen and said they would check it out. I hope they did.

I have spent a lot of time in Lawton:puke: . There are some businesses there which are based on gouging every young soldier who comes to Fort Sill once. Since Tinker is so close to GW, it appears that the same mentality may be in place there.

I go there now and then for amusement, and have shot there in complete privacy a couple of times. Got yelled at on the PA system for loading a magazine, completely separate from the gun, on the rear bench behind the firing line (gun was left on the firing line). I did not complain--their range, their rules.

I have never seen so many items priced so unreasonably in one store. CB

[MAS GunWorks]

Brazilianboy the one thing you need to remember is no matter what type of gun you are shooting a lot of the techniques (breathing, trigger pull, etc) are the same. Practicing with a air rifle is a lot cheaper and serves a purpose. It might not be as fun but you can learn a lot from it.

One final thing. Get good instruction from the beginning. If you get bad instruction it will take a good instructor a little longer to get you out of bad habits. There are a lot of people in this state that know what they are doing. H&H has a few as well as the Oklahoma City Gun Club. OKCGC is a private club but up to the public if you are participating in a match they are hosting.

[stepper]

There. Fixed it for you.:thumb:

:thumb: :thumb:

[SimplyGreg]

I was in Big Boys gun & ammo yesterday buying a gun & they were saying they are still planning on opening up a range. I will tell you this, I have had NOTHING but GOOD experiences there & can tell you as far as I'm concerned, if they ever open one up, they will be the only place other than Canadian that I will ever use. Big Boys are professional, helpful, & have never talked down to me.

[criticalbass]

First I have heard about Big Boys opening a range. I hope they go through with it. There should be enough business to support them. CB

[TJ]

Gun World sucks ass. I have nothing good to say about them.

On Monday I went in because I was in the area and had time to waste. I already knew I was in for a good laugh just like the last few times I went there.

Glock 22 $679
SW 642 $599
Keltec P11 $450

I wanted to ask them why the prices were so outrageous, but I just kept my mouth shut and left laughing on the inside.

I actully asked and he said its becuse he is not a direct retailer and gets nothing from the manufactures or suppliers, i guess he goes over to H&H or ODA and buys from them and tries to resell them at $100 profit. also have been told not to let them work on your fire arms he bad about messing up your finish with this vice,

Took my Femaru 37m one day to find out what in his opinion it might be worth mind you it was in much better shape than some of his ww2 era guns that he had marked for $700-$800 of course mine had a small gouge in the checkering so it was only worth $50-$100 (that he would give to im sure) after i said id keep it he said he didn't think i looked like i needed $100 it must have been the $1000 watch i was wearing

of course he claims that he has the best service in town. i guess that means that he holds your hand while hes giving you the once over.

[TJ]

Brazilianboy,

I would listen to Crticalbass if I were you. He knows what he's talking about. One other thing about H&H, They have great classrooms for taking classes on gun safety. They are quiet large rooms with well qualified instructors on staff. I get down to H&H at least a couple of times a week on weekends. My name is Pete. Most all of the staff knows me, just ask them to page me and I'll buy you a coke. :hithead:


if your buying free cokes im changing my name to Brazilian boy

J/K

OMG I didnt realize that this thread was that old

[NavyLT]

I was in Big Boys gun & ammo yesterday buying a gun & they were saying they are still planning on opening up a range. I will tell you this, I have had NOTHING but GOOD experiences there & can tell you as far as I'm concerned, if they ever open one up, they will be the only place other than Canadian that I will ever use. Big Boys are professional, helpful, & have never talked down to me.

Yep. We bought our first gun at Big Boys after our house was invaded. They were the first place we were in that actually treated my wife like a shooter. That was about 14 months ago. We just bought our 13th gun as a valentine's day present for Mrs. NavyLT.

[criticalbass]

I was at Big Boys today. Asked about the range plans. They said it's maybe a year off. Hope it happens. CB

[Urso]

I went in there today.

pros -

free BBQ lunch, very good.

wide lanes, high walls ( went to H&H once, left after 10 minutes, because the brass from the dude in the next lane kept hitting me in the -head- because the lane walls were too short )

the 'No Concealed Carry' sign in gone.

Cons -

prices about 150$ above market.

bought a parts gun from them for 90$. getting the paperwork done was an hour-long jerkfest. had to go thru -2- forms before they would finally accept it.

help could be described as somewhere between 'smug' and 'smarmy'.

[Big50]

GunWorld is a joke.

[harrybear]

What keeps them in business? The 2 boys doing commercials? LOL

[olyeller]

neighbor of mine saw a box of 410 3" buck on sale there for $50.

[tin can]

I agree...tooo expensive!!!

I have not shot there yet but went by to check em out....SGT Everts on I-35 south...its on the east side of the highway between Moore & Norman

[zseese]

Ok, I got sucked into this almost 4 year old thread last night when I was bored so I decided to waste part of my work day going to Gun World to check it out and ya'll are right about one thing, prices are high!!! too much for me to consider buying from there anyway(Glocks were only over priced by about $75 compared to academy and H&H...). as far as service I thought it was fine. as soon as Arthur? saw me come up to the counter he asked if i needed help and after a brief exchange he left me to browse and said if i need help ask. and Mike behind the gunsmith counter was friendly too and went out of his way to try to find the magazine I was looking for. Prolly wont buy anything from them but the experience was not nearly as bad as has been stated(new staff maybe?)

[zseese]

neighbor of mine saw a box of 410 3" buck on sale there for $50.

This was still there today, btw...

[Urso]

ah, sorry, they're still a bunch of no-goodniks.

perhaps I should tell the full story.

I arrive at GW, having been referred by a friend ( who's father used to shoot there -waaaay- back ). Having been referred, I make the incorrect assumption that these people are relatively trustworthy.

I spot the S&W 659 in the case with the other 'broken/parts' guns.

I ask about price, and I'm told 90 with magazine, 30 without.

I say 'without the mag, please' and hand the man my money ( a single 100, this becomes important later ) and my ID.

Now, I"m not an Okie, but where I'm from, once money has changed hands, the price is -fixed-.

first thing he does is fiddle with the point of sale system, and it makes sale-type noises, and he sticks my 100 in the drawer. Then he frowns. This was Art by the way.

he claims he cant make the POS system ring it for 30. lowest he can go is 65. I make unhappy noises. Mike chimes in with I might as well buy the mag with it, they're hard to find, and 'you wont find one for less than 60 in the internet anyhow.'

I protest, politely. no attempt is made to return either my cash, or my ID. I realize, I'm -not- getting my money back out of that drawer. Ok, fine.

Final sticker? 97.50 fancy that?

To add insult to injury, they had me refill out the 4473 -6 times-. for things like 'the x doesnt go all the way thru the box on both sides'.

First thing I do when I go home is price parts.

And discover the -average- price for a magazine for this thing is 25$, -retail-.

So, to recap.

Gunworld;

1. pulls bait&switch ( an actual crime in some states )

2. runs up the price.

3. declines to allow me to back out.

4. flat out lied to me.

Now, I'll admit, I still got a decent deal, but I'll be damned if I'll ever set foot in that store again, other than to serve one of those.....'people' with court papers.

[carready]

And you would think that Reserve Oklahoma County Deputies would behave better. Good job Goober World, one more reason I never go in there.

PS. Wow this thread is that old!!!!!!

[gyolai]

i went there when i first got stationed at Tinker and i went to order a beaver tail for my 1911 and the price was normal, less that 15. Then they wanted to charge me another 17 dollar fee for finding the part!!!!!! I left and have never gone back

[SMS]

he claims he cant make the POS system ring it for 30. lowest he can go is 65. I make unhappy noises. Mike chimes in with I might as well buy the mag with it, they're hard to find, and 'you wont find one for less than 60 in the internet anyhow.'

I protest, politely. no attempt is made to return either my cash, or my ID. I realize, I'm -not- getting my money back out of that drawer. Ok, fine.

Final sticker? 97.50 fancy that?



Sorry man, maybe Monday morning QB-ing, but the story would've ended there with me loudly and forcefully demanding the return of my $100 and my ID.

Any ass-clown pulling that stunt does not deserve a polite response.
(well ok the story really ended with me slapping myself at the first thought of making a purchase at that place).

[Urso]

when the guy behind the counter is a part-time deputy ( or retired, not sure which, but there are pix on the wall of him in uniform, that look recent ),

and you're 'some damned yankee from away'...

guess who gets arrested if you make a scene?

[SMS]

when the guy behind the counter is a part-time deputy ( or retired, not sure which, but there are pix on the wall of him in uniform, that look recent ),

and you're 'some damned yankee from away'...

guess who gets arrested if you make a scene?

His status as a law enforcement officer has zero bearing on your rights in this situation...assertively demanding your money and identification back is not an arrestable offense.

Sorry you felt intimidated, but thanks for giving us yet another reason to dislike that shop. Keep the thread alive and keep spreading the word.

[Urso]

His status as a law enforcement officer has zero bearing on your rights in this situation...assertively demanding your money and identification back is not an arrestable offense.

Sorry you felt intimidated, but thanks for giving us yet another reason to dislike that shop. Keep the thread alive and keep spreading the word.

Intimidated is not the right word.

The stakes ( $100.00 ) did not match the risks.

If you want to put yourself at risk for anything from getting shot, to years of Good Ol Boy bullshit ( getting pulled over every day, etc...) you go right ahead. I"m going to write it off as a cheap lesson learned, and drive on.

[coffeecup]

My North American Arms 22Magnum was priced an additional $100.oo in Gunworlds display case. After noticing that everything in there was way over priced ..and.. the expensive cost of renting a shooting lane, I left and havent returned..

I've been shooting at Sgt Everetts indoor range thats recently opened up here in the Moore - Norman area..

[gillman7]

I've been shooting at Sgt Everetts indoor range thats recently opened up here in the Moore - Norman area..

Where is that? I am in the city quite a bit, and would like to look at it. Always looking for a new place to shoot.

[coffeecup]

SGT EVERETTS is located just barely south of Indian Hills Rd (by York Plant or Johnson Controls) on the E side service road that parallels i35. There was a good sized banner on the side of the building that faces the highway... ..A lane cost me $8.oo if I remember right..

[english kanigit]

SGT EVERETTS is located just barely south of Indian Hills Rd (by York Plant or Johnson Controls) on the E side service road that parallels i35. There was a good sized banner on the side of the building that faces the highway... ..A lane cost me $8.oo if I remember right..

I just noticed the place today myself as I was headed north from a job. Going off the price sheet that I picked up the non member daily rate is $9. The membership rates appear to be very reasonable as well compared to other 'establishments' in the area.

I stopped to talk to them and have a look at the facilities this evening. The guys seem very squared away. The range, while being very basic at this time, looks to be a stepping stone for something better a few years down the road. The address for the range is 5626 Huettner Drive, Ste B, Norman OK.

I wish them the best and will be watching this range develop with great interest.

Ek


Edited to add: to keep this Gunworld related, if you fellas are in need of ammo today is your lucky day! I stopped in yesterday for giggles and to double check the range fee. On the counter I saw 100 round boxes of WWB 9mm for $40. It appears he has a very healthy supply. Maybe his speculation on an ammunition shortage didn't quite work out. :loser:

[Edmond]

Or maybe he bought it from Wal Mart for $19 and is trying to turn it around for a buck? LOL.

[gnnr]

I've always thought; for a business to to have such a bad reputation, rude employees, inflated prices, and just plain crappy service to remain open they must be a front for laundering money from somewhere!!!

H&H is #1

[daveNnorman]

SGT EVERETTS is located just barely south of Indian Hills Rd (by York Plant or Johnson Controls) on the E side service road that parallels i35. There was a good sized banner on the side of the building that faces the highway... ..A lane cost me $8.oo if I remember right..


I need to go check out the Norman range. thats just down the street from me.

Any way Gunworld must only sell to noobs.

[robar-g19]

i had to go to del city a couple days ago for a job and i got there a little early so i stopped by gun world to see if they were just as bad as i remembered, and no surprise, every single gun in the case was on average $100 over the price of h&h or outdoor america..... i'm at a loss as to how they actually stay in buisiness.

and the electronic sign out front said "give us a try, you'll love us" :laugh6:

[Kyle Cline]

I would like to chime in on the "hate for Gun World". I don't know how they haven't been ran out of buisness by now. Mike is a bad example of good people.

What ever happened to BOLDKHARMA starting a range in East OK County. I live in Nicoma Park, grew up in the Midwest City Gun Range, and would love to have a local range to shoot in. Don't know if I could support your family with my shooting habbit, but I would love to try.

[Big_Red_Truck]

BOLDKHARMA moved to Fort Worth. He had cool stuff. None of it came from Gun World

[Kyle Cline]

Well, I guess there goes that dream.

[H-one-five]

I agree 100%. We very badly need a range out this way. Keep us posted, and good luck.

[cgarman82]

Thanks to all for the info. I have to agree that H&H is a better choice. I lso like King's in Del City - Great People and fair prices.
:clap3:

[Fluke]

Mike at Gun World in Del City is one of the lowest cheats on Earth. He charged my wife $426.00 for a shotgun that sells for about $250.00 everywhere else. She knows nothing about guns and was getting me an aniversary gift. I went in to complain and he litteraly threatened me. He claims he is higher because he has the best service after the sale; NOT TRUE. The shotgun broke soon after the purchase, I was on my own and only got service from the manufacturer. STAY AWAY FROM Gun World. Is this guy a front for some other activity? How does he stay open?

[Kyle Cline]

That take the cake. I tell everyone that asks or talks about ranges to avoid that place.

[Street Rat]

How does he stay open?

By doing what they did to your wife. Sad that some people will keep going back because they will never question these high prices.

[robar-g19]

By doing what they did to your wife. Sad that some people will keep going back because they will never question these high prices.

unfortunately that's the only reason i've been able to come up with myself. there must be a huge number of first time gun buyers around del city that don't like to research what they're getting.

[358norma]

I worked in the gun business for about 15 years and basically grew up in the gun/ pawn business. I would love to help you out with the range idea in the Choctaw area. PM me if interested. I know some range stuff gets sold resonable from time to time. I had a chance to buy a range set up several years ago, but just wasnt the right time. This set up did not have the air system I'm sure you would need today. 15 years ago an air system was $50 to $60K. I could help you look if interested.

By the way Gun World is a joke! I've been giving some serious thought of a gun shop myself. Not a lot in this town!

[mkivbb]

i was in there a month or so ago. hilarious prices.

i actually saw someone buying a pistol in there. like an xd or sig or something. i almost intervened and told the guy that he could save a hundred bucks if he took a 10 minute drive to the west, but thought, hey, he'll learn.....maybe....

[skyydiver]

Is the place still crawling with off-duty deputies? I wondered what it was a front for as well, but certainly with all the law in there at any given time the only crime going on must be the raping the customers get...I guess. But I seriously doubt the old boy relies on the place for income. Probably more of a place where he can hang out with LE and be part of the club he couldn't really join, for whatever reason.

[ShortlineHogger]

Been in there twice-once about 5 years ago. Couldn't believe the prices, and couldn't get anyone to acknowledge I was even there. On the way out, I heard another guy say to a friend "lets go to the store over on I-40" that I found out was H&H.

Went in again this year on a whim, to see if anything changed. Nope.

Whatever, I'm a believer in free enterprise, if they can sell what they've got, at the prices they set, so be it. Won't be to me though!

[skruball253]

Hmm..wonder if I should jump into the fire again?

[Jamie_s_72]

How is this place in business? They must have a following or else they would be tanked by now right. I've never been in there but I did hear he had some 380 ammo about a two weeks ago and was getting ready to make the drive. Then the hammer dropped $40 a box for target ammo. I then explined to him that people like him take advantage of a great hobby and great people. Told him I would never see his store, his response was that he didn't care.

[Terry Hesticles]

How is this place in business? They must have a following or else they would be tanked by now right. I've never been in there but I did hear he had some 380 ammo about a two weeks ago and was getting ready to make the drive. Then the hammer dropped $40 a box for target ammo. I then explined to him that people like him take advantage of a great hobby and great people. Told him I would never see his store, his response was that he didn't care.

A month ago, I forgot who I was I spoke with, quoted me almost $1500 before taxes and fees for a DPMS .308. I handed him a print out of a page, even encouraged him to visit the link to see that it's a legit deal, for the same rifle going for $1100. Without hesitation he said he won't match that.

I've bought ammo before from there out of convenience, but after that, even if they had the last drop of water in town, I'll go thirsty.

[mons meg]

there must be a huge number of first time gun buyers around del city that don't like to research what they're getting.

They're called "junior airmen".

[Terry Hesticles]

They're called "junior airmen".

I wouldn't be surprised.

Now that the old gun range at 15th and Air Depot is a Furniture World, I'm not sure of any other dedicated shop close to Tinker.

[Rickeyparker]

I have lived in Del City for 20 years, I also have a bad taste in my mouth from Gun world back when he first opened, I wont go into detail but it was very angering and Sad.

[StammesOpfer]

I was in there bout a month ago looked at an SKS and I think they were asking 600 I even asked the guy why they were so high. He didn't have a good answer but told me I was better off going somewhere else then trying to haggle with them. So I went up Sunnylane to kings pawn.

[skruball253]

Ok, I guess I will jump back into the fire, because I really don't care. I work at GW. Questions?

[THE JOKER]

Ok, I guess I will jump back into the fire, because I really don't care. I work at GW. Questions?

Does the mafia really own Gun World?

[skruball253]

LMAO...not that I know of. Well there is this one guy....no.

[THE JOKER]

Ok, I guess I will jump back into the fire, because I really don't care. I work at GW. Questions?

Do SKS rifles cost $600 at GW

[264Magnum]

Ok, I guess I will jump back into the fire, because I really don't care. I work at GW. Questions?
A few dollars is forgivable, but why are you guys priced hundreds of dollars higher than other gun stores?

[skruball253]

Possibly? I don't really memorize the prices on everything.

[skruball253]

A few dollars is forgivable, but why are you guys priced hundreds of dollars higher than other gun stores?

Well...there are a couple factors that go into this. First and foremost it IS a business, and being profitable is key to being a successful business. Second not all gun stores have the same supplier. What H&H gets from one supplier may be cheaper than what GW gets from another, for the same gun. So prices do vary from place to place, this is why people should shop around for the best deal.

Another thing is its not just the guns and prices. Its also about upkeep of the facility, range, bills, electricity..etc..etc. The money has to come from somewhere. If someone sells guns for near cost they can probably afford to because there is something else supporting the store, like a restaurant, retail other stuff. Make sense?

[THE JOKER]

A few dollars is forgivable, but why are you guys priced hundreds of dollars higher than other gun stores?

The extra revenue is used to support black opps