OK CTU
07-11-2005, 01:41 AM
Any chance of getting a LE forum to discuss and comment on events in and around the state and nation?
View Full Version : A law enforcement forum????
J.P.
07-13-2005, 05:17 AM
What's going on around the state and nation?
j/k :)
I suppose as with anything,if there is enough interest in any one particular area a new forum could be created.
j/k :)
I suppose as with anything,if there is enough interest in any one particular area a new forum could be created.
capmarine
07-13-2005, 07:54 PM
yes,a LE forum.
LastManStanding
07-14-2005, 10:31 AM
Can us non-LEO's still peek in and comment?... :)
capmarine
07-14-2005, 07:53 PM
do you know the secret handshake? hehheehe
OK CTU
07-21-2005, 06:43 AM
I love it when non-leos get involved in forums discussing issues and voicing concerns that's what makes America great! So long as it doesn't turn into an us vs. them mentality.
capmarine
07-21-2005, 10:53 AM
dont want a us v them.that's what gets the courts involved and screws us.
trade_sniper
05-13-2006, 04:03 PM
Sorry to revive another old thread. I think this would be a good idea. Actually, I'd like to see an anonymous version of this, perhaps for LE only, maybe viewable by non-LE, but can't post. Although it would be nice to be able to voice an opinion, but I don't want it to tun into an us vs them, so if it did, then limit non-LE's to read-only.
A place where a LEO could voice his opinions about LE, problems he sees, things that could be corrected, etc. A way for LEO's to voice their opinion about their profession, department, supervisors, procedures, equipment, whatever, without fear of reprisal. Kind of like an anonymous suggestion box.
It would have to be managed correctly, it is not a flame box, but a means of speaking out in the hope of fixing problems that would benefit us all.
I'm a non-LE myself, but am all for helping them to improve the system because that has an indirect, often direct, effect on all of us.
I am sure there are things that happen, political crap, etc. that many can't speak up about, but still needs to be brought to someone's attention, without the person getting in trouble for it, as long as no laws are broken of course.
Anyway, if it would benefit LE, then I'm for it, otherwise, it was just an idea.
A place where a LEO could voice his opinions about LE, problems he sees, things that could be corrected, etc. A way for LEO's to voice their opinion about their profession, department, supervisors, procedures, equipment, whatever, without fear of reprisal. Kind of like an anonymous suggestion box.
It would have to be managed correctly, it is not a flame box, but a means of speaking out in the hope of fixing problems that would benefit us all.
I'm a non-LE myself, but am all for helping them to improve the system because that has an indirect, often direct, effect on all of us.
I am sure there are things that happen, political crap, etc. that many can't speak up about, but still needs to be brought to someone's attention, without the person getting in trouble for it, as long as no laws are broken of course.
Anyway, if it would benefit LE, then I'm for it, otherwise, it was just an idea.
wlcharm
05-14-2006, 10:52 AM
There is a forum at http://www.officer.com/
trade_sniper
05-14-2006, 02:45 PM
There is a forum at http://www.officer.com/
But they don't have an 'anonymous' area.
But they don't have an 'anonymous' area.
Ride Da Fire
05-27-2006, 10:07 AM
yup we need a LE forum so I could ask them some question about my car got broken in & a hit and run 3 months ago and how I didn't get any answer from them and where is my $35 support LEO every year go. . sorry for being rude but as a civilian I have no choice but asking to be fair.
skyydiver
05-27-2006, 01:11 PM
There's what most LE forums in non-LE sites go. Not a flame on you Ride, but every LE forum in a non-LE site just ends up being a place to bizznatch about parking tickets and then it goes downhill. I like the LE people here, I'd hate for a forum to start a rift between them and civvies. JMHO.
J.P.
05-27-2006, 05:03 PM
We definitely don't want cop bashing here at all,and frankly some of those questions cannot be answered by your local run of the mill street cop.
It is always said: "There are good people and bad apples in every profession."
I prefer to word it this way,if I may be blunt....
"Most people are assholes,some people are cops"
In my experience your attitude dictates how the encounter goes.You have to remember that in today's society,there are a lot of people that want to kill cops and you (J.Q. Public) are all treated as suspect (or should be) upon initial contact.
The guy that "knows his rights" doesn't always actually know his rights but that never stops them from escalating the situation with their chest thumping which is never a good thing.
There are also systematic problems that are not the street cops fault and they have no control over but that doesn't keep JQP from taking their frustrations out on them.
I'm not opposed to LEO forum being added but I think it should be limited to LEOs only...and moderators.
Mike Brown has always offered to help solve problems here to the best of his ability with any LE issues you have.He has gone out of his way to help on several occasions.
Maybe as we gain more members,we'll see LEOs in other jurisdictions offer to do the same.
It is always said: "There are good people and bad apples in every profession."
I prefer to word it this way,if I may be blunt....
"Most people are assholes,some people are cops"
In my experience your attitude dictates how the encounter goes.You have to remember that in today's society,there are a lot of people that want to kill cops and you (J.Q. Public) are all treated as suspect (or should be) upon initial contact.
The guy that "knows his rights" doesn't always actually know his rights but that never stops them from escalating the situation with their chest thumping which is never a good thing.
There are also systematic problems that are not the street cops fault and they have no control over but that doesn't keep JQP from taking their frustrations out on them.
I'm not opposed to LEO forum being added but I think it should be limited to LEOs only...and moderators.
Mike Brown has always offered to help solve problems here to the best of his ability with any LE issues you have.He has gone out of his way to help on several occasions.
Maybe as we gain more members,we'll see LEOs in other jurisdictions offer to do the same.
Michael Brown
05-27-2006, 07:23 PM
yup we need a LE forum so I could ask them some question about my car got broken in & a hit and run 3 months ago and how I didn't get any answer from them and where is my $35 support LEO every year go. . sorry for being rude but as a civilian I have no choice but asking to be fair.
Thank you for your $35 contribution to wherever it went.
Now, if you are going to keep bringing up a $35 contribution as something that buys you some service or makes you really special, I suggest you keep it next time.
I have gone above and beyond and outside of my job for the citizens of this city and to help members here to the best of my ability. Certainly more than $35 worth of work.
It is comments like this that makes me opposed to an LEO forum unless it is only viewable to Mods and LEO's.
Michael Brown
Thank you for your $35 contribution to wherever it went.
Now, if you are going to keep bringing up a $35 contribution as something that buys you some service or makes you really special, I suggest you keep it next time.
I have gone above and beyond and outside of my job for the citizens of this city and to help members here to the best of my ability. Certainly more than $35 worth of work.
It is comments like this that makes me opposed to an LEO forum unless it is only viewable to Mods and LEO's.
Michael Brown
GMThunder
05-27-2006, 07:26 PM
yup we need a LE forum so I could ask them some question about my car got broken in & a hit and run 3 months ago and how I didn't get any answer from them and where is my $35 support LEO every year go. . sorry for being rude but as a civilian I have no choice but asking to be fair.
Man talk about egocentric and twisted logic. :thumb:
Man talk about egocentric and twisted logic. :thumb:
NikatKimber
05-27-2006, 08:53 PM
I wouldn't mind it being LEO only, but it would be nice if we civvies could view, even if we couldn't post.
trade_sniper
05-27-2006, 10:45 PM
Mike, did you get my $10,000 check yet? I mailed it directly to you so at least something good would be made of it! ;)
All kidding aside, were you in Taco Cabana earlier tonight Mike? I've never met you and only seen pics on here, but there was a guy in there that looked an awful lot like your pics and he was eyeballin' me. Thats what I spotted first was him looking, then I wondered if it was you and you were scoping me out for a weapon. :)
All kidding aside, were you in Taco Cabana earlier tonight Mike? I've never met you and only seen pics on here, but there was a guy in there that looked an awful lot like your pics and he was eyeballin' me. Thats what I spotted first was him looking, then I wondered if it was you and you were scoping me out for a weapon. :)
Michael Brown
05-28-2006, 12:13 AM
Mike, did you get my $10,000 check yet? I mailed it directly to you so at least something good would be made of it! ;)
All kidding aside, were you in Taco Cabana earlier tonight Mike? I've never met you and only seen pics on here, but there was a guy in there that looked an awful lot like your pics and he was eyeballin' me. Thats what I spotted first was him looking, then I wondered if it was you and you were scoping me out for a weapon. :)
Nope. I've been at home watching UFC 60 with some friends.
Michael Brown
All kidding aside, were you in Taco Cabana earlier tonight Mike? I've never met you and only seen pics on here, but there was a guy in there that looked an awful lot like your pics and he was eyeballin' me. Thats what I spotted first was him looking, then I wondered if it was you and you were scoping me out for a weapon. :)
Nope. I've been at home watching UFC 60 with some friends.
Michael Brown
trade_sniper
05-28-2006, 04:21 AM
Ahh, perhaps it was your evil twin then. Oh well. I started to walk up and ask him if his name was Mike, but he left just as we were getting our drinks.
Ride Da Fire
05-28-2006, 07:53 AM
Thank you for your $35 contribution to wherever it went.
Now, if you are going to keep bringing up a $35 contribution as something that buys you some service or makes you really special, I suggest you keep it next time.
I have gone above and beyond and outside of my job for the citizens of this city and to help members here to the best of my ability. Certainly more than $35 worth of work.
It is comments like this that makes me opposed to an LEO forum unless it is only viewable to Mods and LEO's.
Michael Brown
Money is not a big issue to me sir. the problem is I didn't get any back from the OKPD even though I gave them all the info including the license plate number of the person who hit me and took off. I need help too, civilian can't do all that tracking bad guys stuff like the police does. I'm a student & both of my car were messed up bad and I didn't even have a ride to school. Called people taking me to school for a month was pain in the butt. if i said anything that offensed anyone one here then i'm sorry, I just need to get something out of my chest.
Now, if you are going to keep bringing up a $35 contribution as something that buys you some service or makes you really special, I suggest you keep it next time.
I have gone above and beyond and outside of my job for the citizens of this city and to help members here to the best of my ability. Certainly more than $35 worth of work.
It is comments like this that makes me opposed to an LEO forum unless it is only viewable to Mods and LEO's.
Michael Brown
Money is not a big issue to me sir. the problem is I didn't get any back from the OKPD even though I gave them all the info including the license plate number of the person who hit me and took off. I need help too, civilian can't do all that tracking bad guys stuff like the police does. I'm a student & both of my car were messed up bad and I didn't even have a ride to school. Called people taking me to school for a month was pain in the butt. if i said anything that offensed anyone one here then i'm sorry, I just need to get something out of my chest.
DrBaker
05-28-2006, 08:01 AM
I don't understand why one would want to make sections off limits to non-mods / non-LEO.
The majority of the OSA members aren't mods or LEO, but I think most of them would be able to add value to almost any topic.
The majority of the OSA members aren't mods or LEO, but I think most of them would be able to add value to almost any topic.
trade_sniper
05-28-2006, 04:42 PM
I don't understand why one would want to make sections off limits to non-mods / non-LEO.
I understand why that was said, they (mods and LEO's) don't want it to turn into an us vs them flame pit against LE and I could see how it might occasionally happen. I don't agree with it being off-limits however. It should at least be viewable by others, perhaps read-only for non-mod/non-LEO.
The majority of the OSA members aren't mods or LEO, but I think most of them would be able to add value to almost any topic.
I agree with this and prefer it. Most OSA members are pretty pro-LE for our local boys/girls. Instead of punishing us all, just lock out those few that might cause problems. You know, innocent until proven guilty.
I understand why that was said, they (mods and LEO's) don't want it to turn into an us vs them flame pit against LE and I could see how it might occasionally happen. I don't agree with it being off-limits however. It should at least be viewable by others, perhaps read-only for non-mod/non-LEO.
The majority of the OSA members aren't mods or LEO, but I think most of them would be able to add value to almost any topic.
I agree with this and prefer it. Most OSA members are pretty pro-LE for our local boys/girls. Instead of punishing us all, just lock out those few that might cause problems. You know, innocent until proven guilty.
Michael Brown
05-28-2006, 06:06 PM
I don't understand why one would want to make sections off limits to non-mods / non-LEO.
The majority of the OSA members aren't mods or LEO, but I think most of them would be able to add value to almost any topic.
Have you been reading this forum for the last year?
Are you seriously wondering why I believe it should be off limits to anyone except mods or LEO's after all the crap so many buttholes started posting?
There is a reason for the no LEO-bashing rule in the general rules and since some people can't control themselves enough to shut their mouths unless they know what they're talking about, there will likely not be a general viewing LEO section.
Fortunately since some of the troublemakers have decided to take their views to a forum where their idiocy and foul language is completely normal, there hasn't been a need to enforce this type of rule lately. Most of the members here self-police the other members and because of that we have a good community.
I don't want that to change by leaving an opening for dissension.
Lastly, I don't feel like sharing all these LE issues with everybody. If I want to discuss them with other LEO's then that's who I want to discuss it with. If somebody else wants to see it, I say too bad. If somebody wants to create a plumber's forum or salesman's forum where you have to be one to participate or view, I have no problem with that and will not feel like a second class citizen because I can't participate. Big deal.
Michael Brown
The majority of the OSA members aren't mods or LEO, but I think most of them would be able to add value to almost any topic.
Have you been reading this forum for the last year?
Are you seriously wondering why I believe it should be off limits to anyone except mods or LEO's after all the crap so many buttholes started posting?
There is a reason for the no LEO-bashing rule in the general rules and since some people can't control themselves enough to shut their mouths unless they know what they're talking about, there will likely not be a general viewing LEO section.
Fortunately since some of the troublemakers have decided to take their views to a forum where their idiocy and foul language is completely normal, there hasn't been a need to enforce this type of rule lately. Most of the members here self-police the other members and because of that we have a good community.
I don't want that to change by leaving an opening for dissension.
Lastly, I don't feel like sharing all these LE issues with everybody. If I want to discuss them with other LEO's then that's who I want to discuss it with. If somebody else wants to see it, I say too bad. If somebody wants to create a plumber's forum or salesman's forum where you have to be one to participate or view, I have no problem with that and will not feel like a second class citizen because I can't participate. Big deal.
Michael Brown
Michael Brown
05-28-2006, 06:12 PM
Money is not a big issue to me sir. the problem is I didn't get any back from the OKPD even though I gave them all the info including the license plate number of the person who hit me and took off. I need help too, civilian can't do all that tracking bad guys stuff like the police does. I'm a student & both of my car were messed up bad and I didn't even have a ride to school. Called people taking me to school for a month was pain in the butt. if i said anything that offensed anyone one here then i'm sorry, I just need to get something out of my chest.
You've gotten it off your chest in two or three other threads.
Don't contribute next time if you think you need to get something in return for it.
Personally I don't air it every time the Church does something I disagree with just because I've written them a check. I give because I believe in the mission not because I think I'm getting something for it.
I would either drop it or consider yourself a short-timer here.
Michael Brown
You've gotten it off your chest in two or three other threads.
Don't contribute next time if you think you need to get something in return for it.
Personally I don't air it every time the Church does something I disagree with just because I've written them a check. I give because I believe in the mission not because I think I'm getting something for it.
I would either drop it or consider yourself a short-timer here.
Michael Brown
DrBaker
05-28-2006, 09:54 PM
I agree with this and prefer it. Most OSA members are pretty pro-LE for our local boys/girls. Instead of punishing us all, just lock out those few that might cause problems. You know, innocent until proven guilty.
Unfortunately it doesn't look like that's the way it's going to work here.
Unfortunately it doesn't look like that's the way it's going to work here.
bulbboy
05-28-2006, 10:11 PM
I think everyone needs to take a breath - we're all friends here - lets notch it down a little.
J.P.
05-28-2006, 10:42 PM
Unfortunately it doesn't look like that's the way it's going to work here.
No,and it's typically the same everywhere.
You'll get 1 or 2 people that just keep hammering,won't listen when you ask them politely to stop, and then get pissed off when you lock them out.
The next thing you know,they go over to a lesser moderated site and start crying,bitching,name calling,and telling a very skewed version of events in an effort to garner support for their fragile ego.
No,and it's typically the same everywhere.
You'll get 1 or 2 people that just keep hammering,won't listen when you ask them politely to stop, and then get pissed off when you lock them out.
The next thing you know,they go over to a lesser moderated site and start crying,bitching,name calling,and telling a very skewed version of events in an effort to garner support for their fragile ego.
GMThunder
05-28-2006, 11:10 PM
I like pancakes.
J.P.
05-28-2006, 11:12 PM
Me too as long as I have 100% pure maple syrup.
I cannot stand flavored corn syrup.
I cannot stand flavored corn syrup.
Glock 'em down
05-28-2006, 11:21 PM
Ya know...it's easy to be an armchair quarterback when it comes to LEOs and us LEOs even do it to other LEOs but let's face it...unless you've been there and done that you don't know what the job is all about. People see the BS on TV and the movies and think that's how it is...what a crock! I wish it was like that sometimes! Nobody calls up the PD and says "hey, I've had a great day at work! Why don't you wonderful people from my friendly, local, neighborhood police dept come by and we'll have a glass of tea and visit for awhile?" Huh? People only call me when they have a problem. If a lady is in Wal-Mart and her kid is acting an ass and she sees me in uniform she tells her child "if you don't be nice, that policeman is gonna take you to jail!" If a fireman walked in would she say "if you don't be nice, that fireman is gonna spray you with a hose!" Hell no! She wouldn't say that! My first day of work my captain asked me "do you wanna be a hero? If you do, join the Fire Dept!" He was right...God I miss him. :( And no, I'm not bashing the hose-monkies...er...uh...I mean the wonderful, heroic firefighters! :lookaroun
Glock 'em down
05-28-2006, 11:23 PM
If there are any Firefighters out there - just kidding guys! BTW I like pancakes too...chocolate chip ones with powdered sugar. mmmmmmmmmmmmmm :thumb:
Michael Brown
05-28-2006, 11:39 PM
No,and it's typically the same everywhere.
You'll get 1 or 2 people that just keep hammering,won't listen when you ask them politely to stop, and then get pissed off when you lock them out.
The next thing you know,they go over to a lesser moderated site and start crying,bitching,name calling,and telling a very skewed version of events in an effort to garner support for their fragile ego.
This sounds like a familiar scenario.
You might also add "and start saying things they'd never have the balls to say to your face."
Michael Brown
You'll get 1 or 2 people that just keep hammering,won't listen when you ask them politely to stop, and then get pissed off when you lock them out.
The next thing you know,they go over to a lesser moderated site and start crying,bitching,name calling,and telling a very skewed version of events in an effort to garner support for their fragile ego.
This sounds like a familiar scenario.
You might also add "and start saying things they'd never have the balls to say to your face."
Michael Brown
Glock 'em down
05-28-2006, 11:42 PM
If I had a nickel for everytime I heard a BG say to me as I put him in jail "If I wasn't in jail and you didn't have on that gun and badge, I'd kick your ass PIG!" You hear that alot Michael Brown?
J.P.
05-28-2006, 11:46 PM
Heh.
Mike said "Balls" and "Face"....
:rollingla
Mike said "Balls" and "Face"....
:rollingla
J.P.
05-28-2006, 11:49 PM
If I had a nickel for everytime I heard a BG say to me as I put him in jail "If I wasn't in jail and you didn't have on that gun and badge, I'd kick your ass PIG!" You hear that alot Michael Brown?
I've said it a few times. ;)
Hey,I wasn't lying..I meant it....
sometimes those things don't always pan out though. :nolike:
I've said it a few times. ;)
Hey,I wasn't lying..I meant it....
sometimes those things don't always pan out though. :nolike:
trade_sniper
05-29-2006, 12:04 AM
My original post was for the concern of LE. If I can't view such a forum, so be it. I'd like to be able to, but I'll live and understand. If it is something that benefits LE, then thats all the better. I don't lump LE in the same professional soup as plumbers and salesmen though, LE is much more closely tied to all citizens, with much more pressure and responsibility, and sadly with less pay.
You *could* make a new group of say mod-apprentices, hand picked and the forum would only show up to those and higher rank. This would eliminate any possible trouble-makers, without those possible trouble-makers even knowing it.
+1 for pancakes.
You *could* make a new group of say mod-apprentices, hand picked and the forum would only show up to those and higher rank. This would eliminate any possible trouble-makers, without those possible trouble-makers even knowing it.
+1 for pancakes.
J.P.
05-29-2006, 12:13 AM
We are going to eventually have a members only section,much like the "Mods only" section that we already have.
Maybe it could be instituted then?
I dunno'...it's Kelly's site so whatever he does I'll respect (or argue with him in the mod section :) )
Maybe it could be instituted then?
I dunno'...it's Kelly's site so whatever he does I'll respect (or argue with him in the mod section :) )
trade_sniper
05-29-2006, 12:21 AM
Sounds like a good idea.
skyydiver
05-29-2006, 12:24 AM
I am curious as to why non-LE mods (we have LE mods) would be allowed in a LE only section. Not that it bothers me much, but I really like the open community we have, and I don't really see why the Oklahoma SHooting site needs special off-limits areas for LE. I know the skydiving sites don't have LE areas (or pilot areas or something more relavant) that are off limits. The groups that want their own areas usually have their own sites. Not sure why this bugs me, but splitting OSA up into "this only" and "that only" would definitely make me like the site a little less. (That may be good for everyone but me). I just like the "one big family: concept.
J.P.
05-29-2006, 12:36 AM
I am curious as to why non-LE mods (we have LE mods) would be allowed in a LE only section.
Because,by law,we have to have the super mods involved in everything. ;)
Not that it bothers me much, but I really like the open community we have, and I don't really see why the Oklahoma SHooting site needs special off-limits areas for LE. I know the skydiving sites don't have LE areas (or pilot areas or something more relavant) that are off limits. The groups that want their own areas usually have their own sites. Not sure why this bugs me, but splitting OSA up into "this only" and "that only" would definitely make me like the site a little less. (That may be good for everyone but me). I just like the "one big family: concept.
We are one big family.
Other sites do have special interest sections that are only viewable by certain members.
With the LE issues,I think we've highlighted the concerns already.
I do undrstand where you are coming from but I still hold that it would be in the best interest of the site to make those VIP only.
Any LE discussion by other members can always be posted in the General section which our LEO members look at.
Additionally,there may be issues that are discussed between LEOs that they do not want JQP knowing about.Believe it or not,we probably *do* have members who are real-life crooks.Certainly they shouldn't be privy to any LE tactics or intra-agency discussion.
Because,by law,we have to have the super mods involved in everything. ;)
Not that it bothers me much, but I really like the open community we have, and I don't really see why the Oklahoma SHooting site needs special off-limits areas for LE. I know the skydiving sites don't have LE areas (or pilot areas or something more relavant) that are off limits. The groups that want their own areas usually have their own sites. Not sure why this bugs me, but splitting OSA up into "this only" and "that only" would definitely make me like the site a little less. (That may be good for everyone but me). I just like the "one big family: concept.
We are one big family.
Other sites do have special interest sections that are only viewable by certain members.
With the LE issues,I think we've highlighted the concerns already.
I do undrstand where you are coming from but I still hold that it would be in the best interest of the site to make those VIP only.
Any LE discussion by other members can always be posted in the General section which our LEO members look at.
Additionally,there may be issues that are discussed between LEOs that they do not want JQP knowing about.Believe it or not,we probably *do* have members who are real-life crooks.Certainly they shouldn't be privy to any LE tactics or intra-agency discussion.
Pigeon
05-29-2006, 07:07 PM
An LE forum? Bring it.
Why not 2 LE forums? 1 public, 1 private. With the public forum, JQ would be welcome. When we wanted to discuss topics amongst ourselves, use the LE only forum (moderated by MB of course).:bolt:
I am not interested in another episode of what has happened to Coptalk on GT. It has been seriously degraded by the behavior on the part of LEO's as well as others.
I would however welcome a place where OK LEO's could gather. I think it would be a positive addition to a site that is already a great place to hang. (Even though I lurk much more than I post).
My $.025
Why not 2 LE forums? 1 public, 1 private. With the public forum, JQ would be welcome. When we wanted to discuss topics amongst ourselves, use the LE only forum (moderated by MB of course).:bolt:
I am not interested in another episode of what has happened to Coptalk on GT. It has been seriously degraded by the behavior on the part of LEO's as well as others.
I would however welcome a place where OK LEO's could gather. I think it would be a positive addition to a site that is already a great place to hang. (Even though I lurk much more than I post).
My $.025
stepper
05-30-2006, 08:55 PM
I like IHOP's pancakes. They are my favorite.
trade_sniper
05-30-2006, 09:48 PM
Me too, their biscuits and gravy are THE BOMB!
bulbboy
05-30-2006, 10:03 PM
have to go with the biscuits and gravy - BUT there HAS to be bacon...
skyydiver
05-30-2006, 10:44 PM
Do they have donuts? ;)
J.P.
05-30-2006, 10:48 PM
IHOP is just nasty.
brennan
05-31-2006, 07:41 PM
But the Waffle House is not.
Pigeon
05-31-2006, 10:21 PM
Is this thread officially hijacked?
Hoov
06-05-2006, 08:28 AM
I dunno about the LE section. While some of us know each other, for the most part, we are anonymous. We have all had a bad encounter with someone in every profession. Whether it be a cop or a plumber. There are also a lot of things that would not, could not, should not be discussed in a forum. Secondly, we are all here as gun enthusiasts, not police or plumbing enthusiasts. It might be more peaceful if we keep it that way.
bulbboy
06-05-2006, 08:59 AM
+1
I would prefer the whole site being open to everyone. Just my opinion.
I would prefer the whole site being open to everyone. Just my opinion.
Hoov
06-05-2006, 09:15 AM
There is a huge difference between me letting the cat out of the bag on, say the new Beretta handguns coming out next year versus MB discussing what a suspect says in an interrogation. Not that Mike would, but you see the point.
YukonGlocker
06-05-2006, 10:46 AM
I dunno about the LE section. While some of us know each other, for the most part, we are anonymous. We have all had a bad encounter with someone in every profession. Whether it be a cop or a plumber. There are also a lot of things that would not, could not, should not be discussed in a forum. Secondly, we are all here as gun enthusiasts, not police or plumbing enthusiasts. It might be more peaceful if we keep it that way.
+2..I agree.
+2..I agree.
Hoov
06-05-2006, 07:45 PM
I like waffles. Back to your local hijacking.
stepper
06-05-2006, 08:28 PM
I like waffles. Back to your local hijacking.
Now, do you like butter on your waffles, or just plain? :selfangel
Now, do you like butter on your waffles, or just plain? :selfangel
stepper
06-05-2006, 08:31 PM
I dunno about the LE section. While some of us know each other, for the most part, we are anonymous. We have all had a bad encounter with someone in every profession. Whether it be a cop or a plumber. There are also a lot of things that would not, could not, should not be discussed in a forum. Secondly, we are all here as gun enthusiasts, not police or plumbing enthusiasts. It might be more peaceful if we keep it that way.
I absolutely, totally agree. This site is for gun enthusiasts, if there is going to be a LE section, it should be open to everybody. Otherwise, LE stuff should be on a totally different site altogether.
I absolutely, totally agree. This site is for gun enthusiasts, if there is going to be a LE section, it should be open to everybody. Otherwise, LE stuff should be on a totally different site altogether.
Hoov
06-05-2006, 08:33 PM
I can eat them with butter alone, if they are well done. I like them with syrup. if they are not overly crispy.
stepper
06-05-2006, 08:52 PM
I've got to have lots of butter on mine. Lots of syrup too. I have to eat it fairly fast because I don't like them soggy.
J.P.
06-05-2006, 09:09 PM
I absolutely, totally agree. This site is for gun enthusiasts, if there is going to be a LE section, it should be open to everybody. Otherwise, LE stuff should be on a totally different site altogether.
I totally disagree.
This is a gun enthusiast site and there are LEOs that are gun enthusiasts.
What difference would it make if it was LE Only?
Nobody else would be the wiser because non-LEO members couldn't see it.(like our moderator forum where we talk sh!t about all of you ;) )
Again,there may be issues LEOs discuss that they don't want to take to the public side.
If it is a public LE forum,I envision headaches and more headaches for moderators,though I have been known to be wrong on more than one occasion.
I totally disagree.
This is a gun enthusiast site and there are LEOs that are gun enthusiasts.
What difference would it make if it was LE Only?
Nobody else would be the wiser because non-LEO members couldn't see it.(like our moderator forum where we talk sh!t about all of you ;) )
Again,there may be issues LEOs discuss that they don't want to take to the public side.
If it is a public LE forum,I envision headaches and more headaches for moderators,though I have been known to be wrong on more than one occasion.
DrBaker
06-05-2006, 10:27 PM
If somebody wants to discuss something that shouldn't be viewed by the public, they shouldn't be putting it on internet forums. We all know that any number of "bad folks" can see what's going on.
Private access only seperates the honest people.
Private access only seperates the honest people.
J.P.
06-05-2006, 10:35 PM
Private access only seperates the honest people.
What do you mean by that,exactly?
:anyone:
What do you mean by that,exactly?
:anyone:
Hoov
06-06-2006, 04:40 AM
though I have been known to be wrong on more than one occasion.
Like right now.
Like right now.
J.P.
06-06-2006, 04:45 AM
Like right now.
Your opinion is duly noted. :)
Your opinion is duly noted. :)
trade_sniper
06-06-2006, 04:51 AM
mmmm, paaancaaakes...
Hoov
06-06-2006, 05:21 AM
Anybody ever put peanut butter on them? I personally find that revolting, but to each his own.
YukonGlocker
06-06-2006, 07:57 AM
The only way I will eat pancakes or waffles is with peanut butter and syrup. I make my own homemade syrup, and it is wonderful. Slap on some crunchy peanut butter, and soak them in my runny syrup. Mmmmmm, good.
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