Do I need to have ammo locked in a seperate case when going to the range?

[dogbear]

I am sure we have been over this before but please remind me.Just bought a glock 22 (first glock) I am wanting to go to the range in the next couple of weeks and have about 400 shells to shoot.On the way to the range do I need to put the ammo in a locked box or can I just put it in the trunk of my car.Just in case I get pulled over.I couldn't find anything in the SDA book. Thank you

[ok_patriot]

I would put it in the trunk just to be safe. Although I never do when I go to the range. I also have a ccw, not that that is a special entitlment!

[USDefender]

We do not live in the east-coast prison camp also known as 'New Jersey', nor do we live in the socialist state of "K"alifornia. No, you don't have to lock your ammo up...especially when it's in your trunk.

I would be glad to admit mea culpa to anyone who can prove differently.

I carry it in my trunk just because, if I need to make a stop for some reason (i.e. QT for a drink) I don't want it sitting there as "car-break-in-bait" while I'm inside.

[chicane]

here's a question, I'm still waiting on my CCW to come in the mail.(letter).

And I own a single cab truck... From my understanding, the only legal way to take my guns to the range is to have the ammo locked in a lock box behind the seat, and the guns locked in the range bag. No ammo in the range bag? I don't always follow these rules, Alot of times I keep the ammo and guns in the range bag locked and in the floorboard. Would a LEO be upset if he found this?

[USDefender]

For a truly accurate answer to your question, I recommend calling your PD's non-emergency number and asking them.

For Tulsa, the number is: 596 - 9225

[dogbear]

Mike Brown,would you please give us your opinion on this issue since you are and LEO?Thank you

[mons meg]

1289.7:

Any person, except a convicted felon, may transport in a motor vehicle a rifle, shotgun or pistol, open and unloaded, at any time. For purposes of this section "open" means the firearm is transported in plain view, in a case designed for carrying firearms, which case is wholly or partially visible, in a gun rack mounted in the vehicle, in an exterior locked compartment or a trunk of a vehicle.

Doesn't say anything about where the ammo has to go...anyone else got a cite?

[Mack45]

I think that if none of the ammo is in the chamber or magazine, You are good to go.

[DanB]

you can have an unloaded gun in your vehicle. Ammo cannot be loaded in a magazine(internal or removable). A good Idea is to have your ammo in a container of some sort, be it factory box or storage box.

We are lucky to live in OK where you don't have to keep you firearms in a time locked safe during transport.

[NavyLT]

Why does the magazine have to be unloaded? A loaded magazine is not a loaded weapon. I have heard that the definition of unloaded (and this is just rumor/speculation) is that you have to be two distinct steps away from firing - ie: put the magazine in the weapon is one step, rack the slide to chamber the round is the second step. When I go to the range, I make sure no round is in the chamber and my pistol is in the pistol case with the loaded magazine in the case as well - not in the gun.

I can't see how, since there is no strict definition cited in the law - that a gun can be considered loaded if there is no round in it anywhere. As for the rest of my guns when I go to the range - they are all in the rifle case and any magazines for them are in the range bag, loaded, and the range bag is right next to the rifle case. All bags are out in the open in my vehicle.

For safety, I never leave the guns unattended in the car and always have the .45 separate with it's loaded magazine right there within my easy reach.

[wlcharm]

From Oklahoma Hunting Guide Book
Transportation of Firearms
Except as otherwise provided, no person may transport a loaded firearm in a land or water motor vehicle. “Loaded firearm” shall mean any firearm that has live rounds in an inserted clip, attached magazine, cylinder or chamber, or a capped muzzleloader with a loaded powder charge and bullet. Muzzleloaders may be transported with a loaded powder charge and bullet as long as the gun is uncapped.

[Buzzdraw]

The following applies ONLY to those with an OK SDA license:

§21-1289.13. Transporting a loaded firearm.
TRANSPORTING A LOADED FIREARM
Except as otherwise provided by the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act or another provision of law, it shall be unlawful to transport a loaded pistol, rifle or shotgun in a landborne motor vehicle over a public highway or roadway. However, a rifle or shotgun may be transported clip or magazine loaded and not chamber loaded when transported in an exterior locked compartment of the vehicle or trunk of the vehicle or in the interior compartment of the vehicle notwithstanding the provisions of Section 1289.7 of this title when the person is in possession of a valid handgun license pursuant to the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act.

Again, this applies ONLY to those with a SDA license.

[Buzzdraw]

If one does NOT have a SDA license, the following apples:

"§21-1289.7. Firearms in vehicles.
FIREARMS IN VEHICLES
Any person, except a convicted felon, may transport in a motor vehicle a rifle, shotgun or pistol, open and unloaded, at any time. For purposes of this section "open" means the firearm is transported in plain view, in a case designed for carrying firearms, which case is wholly or partially visible, in a gun rack mounted in the vehicle, in an exterior locked compartment or a trunk of a vehicle.
Any person, except a convicted felon, may transport in a motor vehicle a rifle or shotgun concealed behind a seat of the vehicle or within the interior of the vehicle provided the rifle or shotgun is not clip, magazine or chamber loaded."

I personally do not advise open, in plain view transport. People with cell phones see "guns", get freaky, call LE and your day may become exciting. If not that case, your parked unattended cary with guns in plain view becomes a break and enter target.