Nanotech9
10-04-2006, 10:07 AM
Lady at H&H was talking about 3 gun shooting matches - pistol, rifle, and shotgun... anyone know where they have these? I've got one of each and it sounds like fun...
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YukonGlocker
10-04-2006, 10:42 AM
OKC Gun Club has 3-gun matches every month. I have watched a couple, but never shot one. It really looks like fun.
Michael Brown
10-04-2006, 12:17 PM
Can someone who has been to the OKC gun club 3 gun matches describe the rifle stages?
Close range? Long range? Does long range capability influence the match?
Michael Brown
Close range? Long range? Does long range capability influence the match?
Michael Brown
markusej
10-04-2006, 01:01 PM
The longest rifle stage is only about 125 yards, and not always used. The 3 gun matches are usually about 4-6 stages. You can find a bunch of info at bentworks.com and go to the OKC Gun Club IPSC section. The matches are a lot of fun. The most popular class is tactical, where you may have one electronic/optic on your rifle and the pistol/shotgun use iron sights. Let me know if you need any more info, I will be shooting that match and would loan you anything if needed. Mark
Michael Brown
10-04-2006, 01:08 PM
The website says that 3-Gun is done the 5th Sunday of those months with one.
Is this accurate?
It looks like there is a match October 21st and I think that's a Saturday.
If so what is the 3-Gun schedule?
Thanks in advance.
Michael Brown
Is this accurate?
It looks like there is a match October 21st and I think that's a Saturday.
If so what is the 3-Gun schedule?
Thanks in advance.
Michael Brown
markusej
10-04-2006, 01:22 PM
We were doing a 3 gun match on those months with a fifth saturday. There is a new group of people that is putting on a 3 gun match on the 3rd saturday of every month. It uses international 3 gun rules. Mark
Michael Brown
10-04-2006, 03:06 PM
We were doing a 3 gun match on those months with a fifth saturday. There is a new group of people that is putting on a 3 gun match on the 3rd saturday of every month. It uses international 3 gun rules. Mark
What are international 3-Gun rules?
Are they on the USPSA website?
Michael Brown
What are international 3-Gun rules?
Are they on the USPSA website?
Michael Brown
Nanotech9
10-04-2006, 03:38 PM
pulled this off the OKC gun club main page:
http://ipsc.okcgunclub.org/05_3gunrules.pdf
http://ipsc.okcgunclub.org/05_3gunrules.pdf
Nanotech9
10-04-2006, 04:02 PM
i'de like to attend the next match
please post a time and date and address or somethign so i can try and make it. I'll probably bee the dumb new guy shoing up with a mossy 500 and ratty looking AK, but i wanna try it out.
please post a time and date and address or somethign so i can try and make it. I'll probably bee the dumb new guy shoing up with a mossy 500 and ratty looking AK, but i wanna try it out.
chicane
10-04-2006, 05:45 PM
I'm all ready to go...
M4... Check!
Rem 870... Check!
Glock... Gheck!
Gotta grab a red dot and I'll be up for some run and gun with the AR!
M4... Check!
Rem 870... Check!
Glock... Gheck!
Gotta grab a red dot and I'll be up for some run and gun with the AR!
Helmut
10-04-2006, 07:41 PM
What are international 3-Gun rules?
Are they on the USPSA website?
Michael Brown
....they are pretty lacks on the rules if it your first time shooting the match.......bring what you have.....run with it...
i have shot their 3-gun match a few times and the 2004 ok state 3-gun their....they are great folks......as for yards.....125 max.....but 90% of rifle in pistol bays.....
enjoy.....
Garret Hawkins
Are they on the USPSA website?
Michael Brown
....they are pretty lacks on the rules if it your first time shooting the match.......bring what you have.....run with it...
i have shot their 3-gun match a few times and the 2004 ok state 3-gun their....they are great folks......as for yards.....125 max.....but 90% of rifle in pistol bays.....
enjoy.....
Garret Hawkins
chicane
10-04-2006, 08:08 PM
Are there any strings/stages that you might be "running" during the rifle portion?
Helmut
10-05-2006, 05:11 AM
if there is, it will not be far.......10yrds maybe........just running around pistol bays mostly......
Garret Hawkins
Garret Hawkins
Helmut
10-05-2006, 05:27 AM
Can someone who has been to the OKC gun club 3 gun matches describe the rifle stages?
Close range? Long range? Does long range capability influence the match?
Michael Brown
If and when they have 1 "long" range stage (within IMGA scoring)......the winner of the stage gets 100 match points for the stage, then everyone else is percentaged down from that.... by division. If you are all in the same division.....yes time will rule....hits are hits...but it is only for a stage, not the whole match.......
unlike IDPA where time rules the whole match...and then, yes if someone roasted the long range stage, they would take the whole match....IE.. 100 secs faster than everyone else
if you use to shooting ipsc/uspsa/idpa.......you will need to think a little differently.......just remember.....1 "A" hit or 2 hits anywhere on the paper is considered "neutralized"......steel must "FALL"......and 1 bb for birds........
i hope this helps...
Garret Hawkins
Close range? Long range? Does long range capability influence the match?
Michael Brown
If and when they have 1 "long" range stage (within IMGA scoring)......the winner of the stage gets 100 match points for the stage, then everyone else is percentaged down from that.... by division. If you are all in the same division.....yes time will rule....hits are hits...but it is only for a stage, not the whole match.......
unlike IDPA where time rules the whole match...and then, yes if someone roasted the long range stage, they would take the whole match....IE.. 100 secs faster than everyone else
if you use to shooting ipsc/uspsa/idpa.......you will need to think a little differently.......just remember.....1 "A" hit or 2 hits anywhere on the paper is considered "neutralized"......steel must "FALL"......and 1 bb for birds........
i hope this helps...
Garret Hawkins
Nanotech9
10-05-2006, 09:56 AM
cool... so WHEN IS IT??? hehehe. I wanna play!
Helmut
10-05-2006, 11:39 AM
cool... so WHEN IS IT??? hehehe. I wanna play!
OCT 21
OCT 21
Nanotech9
10-05-2006, 12:49 PM
edited cause i had a brain fart - its october already d'oh.
looks like it starts at 10am on the 21st (as you mentioned). I'll do my best to be there...
looks like it starts at 10am on the 21st (as you mentioned). I'll do my best to be there...
green country shooter
10-06-2006, 05:15 PM
I have been to one of the "third Saturday" matches, which are not run under IPSC rules. The main difference you will notice are multi-gun stages where you put one gun down and move on.
The scoring is also different than IPSC. They require two shots on a target or one A zone hit to neutralize, and just score the targets as "neutralized" or "not neutralized." This makes scoring fast and I enjoyed the match I went to. There were no rifle stages over about 40 yards, so a non-magnified red dot is fine. Categories for weapons are slightly different than IPSC. Few of the shotgun stages required the kind of incessant reloading that you often get at the Fort Smith matches.
I've also been to one of the club's IPSC three guns, which was also well-organized. They had some 200 yard or longer rifle targets.
The scoring is also different than IPSC. They require two shots on a target or one A zone hit to neutralize, and just score the targets as "neutralized" or "not neutralized." This makes scoring fast and I enjoyed the match I went to. There were no rifle stages over about 40 yards, so a non-magnified red dot is fine. Categories for weapons are slightly different than IPSC. Few of the shotgun stages required the kind of incessant reloading that you often get at the Fort Smith matches.
I've also been to one of the club's IPSC three guns, which was also well-organized. They had some 200 yard or longer rifle targets.
Nanotech9
10-20-2006, 10:17 PM
so is anyone going? I'm all stocked up on shotshell, and i think i've got at least 50rnds of 7.62, and plenty of 9mm....
anyone? anyone?
Cmon Chicane!
anyone? anyone?
Cmon Chicane!
Hoov
10-20-2006, 10:23 PM
If MB shows up, would someone please bring him by SW. I would like to just shake his hand and get over my man crush on him!:thumb:
Nanotech9
10-21-2006, 09:11 AM
heading up there now...
olyeller
10-21-2006, 07:12 PM
how bout an after action report?
MarkV
10-22-2006, 07:43 AM
how bout an after action report?
ya :faint:
ya :faint:
chicane
10-22-2006, 08:10 AM
I heard he got in a fight with some guy named Mossberg, and ended up with a fat lip? lol
MarkV
10-22-2006, 08:13 AM
I heard he got in a fight with some guy named Mossberg, and ended up with a fat lip? lol
Are you being serious? If he did that's so funny. :sweat:
I'm really sorry to hear that Nano.
Are you being serious? If he did that's so funny. :sweat:
I'm really sorry to hear that Nano.
chicane
10-22-2006, 08:18 AM
He gave me some valuable advice last night... Be very careful shooting a skattergun from the prone postion.
Aparently they kick a little more than an AK.
Aparently they kick a little more than an AK.
MarkV
10-22-2006, 08:20 AM
Oh snap. That really sucks. And I thought catching a little piece of a bullet sucked.
olyeller
10-22-2006, 12:23 PM
:thumb: He gave me some valuable advice last night... Be very careful shooting a skattergun from the prone postion.
Aparently they kick a little more than an AK.
you know, I dont think I ever tried that.
Aparently they kick a little more than an AK.
you know, I dont think I ever tried that.
Nanotech9
10-22-2006, 01:35 PM
well... t'was the night before christmas.....
wait, wrong story.
so, after rushing around, running to wallmart for ammo, driving to the main location of OKC gun club (the wrong place), i finally got there almost 45min late. The fellas there were super nice, and signed me up anyway. $10 later, i was waiting my turn to do some slug slinging at some paper targets a good 25yrds away.
Now, after shooting that 3" magnum turkey load in the mossy, I figured from 2 3/4 slugs wouldn't be so bad... and they werent, well the first 4 werent. It was 2 standing, 2 kneeling, and 2 prone. After the first slug landed dead center of the A zone, i was good to go... Right untill i got in teh prone position. I had a 1/4 sec thought cross my mind that this was about the dumbest thing i could be doing right then. My face seemed awfully close to the reciever. I pull it hard against my shoulder, aimed, and fired.
Apparently i let out an audible grunt. It almost knocked the wind out of me, through my top front tooth lol. I was in pain. I checked to see if the tooth was still there as i couldnt feel it at all... tooth was there, but my upper lip was missing a bunch of skin. At that point, i called it quits, feeling lucky i still had all my teeth.
Everyone was real nice and secured the weapon for me (unloaded it etc) while i got up. I finished the rifle side of the two part stage and checked on my lip afterwards. It was definitely a painfull experience, and i'll probably pass on shooting a short-stock shotgun in the prone position again.
after that things got a little better... sorta lol.
I had just installed a 4lb striker spring, 3.5lb connector, and overtravel stop, and hiviz front sight.... and hadnt fired the gun since it was installed. Big mistake.
The next stage consisted of shotgun (birdshot), rifle, and pistol.
Shotgun and rifle went great. My AK did a great job and i was suprised at my grouping on it. The pistol was something else. It was all steel targets, and i couldnt hit schiznet. I dropped all but 3, and spent an entire 17rnd mag on one steel target and didnt hit it once. I was going up and down it in a pattern trying to fogure out where my bullets were going, but it was pointless. I felt like an idiot.
Well, the next stage i finally figured where my gun was shooting and compensated for it. It was shooting nearly a foot left at 10 yrds.
I little tapping on the rear sight before the next stage got me ligned up enough to make it buy.
Had some other new experiences... never shot clay's before in the air... i need a little practice. They had steels that that would fall down and flip clay up in the air... combine all that with a strong wind, and me forgetting to pump before it went up in the air... well, i ended up firing almost at the 180 line and 6' off the ground. The second one threw up the clay, RIGHT at me. It barely went between me and the scorer. We both dodged it and i kept going. They werent sure how to score that one... said i should have smacked it with the buttstock of the shotty lol. I would have if i had thought of it. hehehe.
anyway, overall, it was a lot of fun. a little cold, but the facilities are great. Racks at each range to stand up your ling guns, tables for ammo cans or pistols etc.
The folks up there were real nice too... one stage required loading the shotty on the timer and had to load from shells on your person. The RO loaned me two shell holders (on the belt) and several people offered to loan me their semi-auto shotguns for the rest of the stages. Nobody made any comments about my gun choice or my crappy looking AK, even though it was the only non-ar15 rifle there lol. They even offered to let me shoot first on teh last stage since i had to leave for work.
Overall, great people, great facilities, inventive stages, lots of shooting.
150 rnds of pistol, 50+ rnds of shotty, 10-20 slugs, and about 100rnds of rifle, or more.
wait, wrong story.
so, after rushing around, running to wallmart for ammo, driving to the main location of OKC gun club (the wrong place), i finally got there almost 45min late. The fellas there were super nice, and signed me up anyway. $10 later, i was waiting my turn to do some slug slinging at some paper targets a good 25yrds away.
Now, after shooting that 3" magnum turkey load in the mossy, I figured from 2 3/4 slugs wouldn't be so bad... and they werent, well the first 4 werent. It was 2 standing, 2 kneeling, and 2 prone. After the first slug landed dead center of the A zone, i was good to go... Right untill i got in teh prone position. I had a 1/4 sec thought cross my mind that this was about the dumbest thing i could be doing right then. My face seemed awfully close to the reciever. I pull it hard against my shoulder, aimed, and fired.
Apparently i let out an audible grunt. It almost knocked the wind out of me, through my top front tooth lol. I was in pain. I checked to see if the tooth was still there as i couldnt feel it at all... tooth was there, but my upper lip was missing a bunch of skin. At that point, i called it quits, feeling lucky i still had all my teeth.
Everyone was real nice and secured the weapon for me (unloaded it etc) while i got up. I finished the rifle side of the two part stage and checked on my lip afterwards. It was definitely a painfull experience, and i'll probably pass on shooting a short-stock shotgun in the prone position again.
after that things got a little better... sorta lol.
I had just installed a 4lb striker spring, 3.5lb connector, and overtravel stop, and hiviz front sight.... and hadnt fired the gun since it was installed. Big mistake.
The next stage consisted of shotgun (birdshot), rifle, and pistol.
Shotgun and rifle went great. My AK did a great job and i was suprised at my grouping on it. The pistol was something else. It was all steel targets, and i couldnt hit schiznet. I dropped all but 3, and spent an entire 17rnd mag on one steel target and didnt hit it once. I was going up and down it in a pattern trying to fogure out where my bullets were going, but it was pointless. I felt like an idiot.
Well, the next stage i finally figured where my gun was shooting and compensated for it. It was shooting nearly a foot left at 10 yrds.
I little tapping on the rear sight before the next stage got me ligned up enough to make it buy.
Had some other new experiences... never shot clay's before in the air... i need a little practice. They had steels that that would fall down and flip clay up in the air... combine all that with a strong wind, and me forgetting to pump before it went up in the air... well, i ended up firing almost at the 180 line and 6' off the ground. The second one threw up the clay, RIGHT at me. It barely went between me and the scorer. We both dodged it and i kept going. They werent sure how to score that one... said i should have smacked it with the buttstock of the shotty lol. I would have if i had thought of it. hehehe.
anyway, overall, it was a lot of fun. a little cold, but the facilities are great. Racks at each range to stand up your ling guns, tables for ammo cans or pistols etc.
The folks up there were real nice too... one stage required loading the shotty on the timer and had to load from shells on your person. The RO loaned me two shell holders (on the belt) and several people offered to loan me their semi-auto shotguns for the rest of the stages. Nobody made any comments about my gun choice or my crappy looking AK, even though it was the only non-ar15 rifle there lol. They even offered to let me shoot first on teh last stage since i had to leave for work.
Overall, great people, great facilities, inventive stages, lots of shooting.
150 rnds of pistol, 50+ rnds of shotty, 10-20 slugs, and about 100rnds of rifle, or more.
Nanotech9
10-22-2006, 01:40 PM
a few pictures
the big building is the main clubhouse as far as i can tell...
the big building is the main clubhouse as far as i can tell...
MarkV
10-22-2006, 05:07 PM
Well at least you had fun.
I don't think I'll be doing any 3 gun for a while. Don't want to spend the money on 2 new guns after spending so much on the XD, and I've never shot a clay in my life and would have to get out and practice at least a little. :)
I don't think I'll be doing any 3 gun for a while. Don't want to spend the money on 2 new guns after spending so much on the XD, and I've never shot a clay in my life and would have to get out and practice at least a little. :)
Nanotech9
10-22-2006, 07:31 PM
2 new guns? wtf? go buy a shotty and you're set. your Varmiter AR is good to go for most of that stuff...
chicane
10-22-2006, 08:45 PM
Were there guys there using bull barreled AR's?
Mine is one heavy sum-biotch, I don't think I'd like running around with that rifle!
Mine is one heavy sum-biotch, I don't think I'd like running around with that rifle!
Nanotech9
10-22-2006, 09:26 PM
we didnt do any rifle running.. either standing, sitting, kneeling, or prone.
yes, over half of them had some high dollar bull-barrel AR's. Several of them had compensation built into the bull barrel - fancy stuff too. It was neat seeing 10 different kinds of AR's side by side on the rack... and my little AK on the end lol. Looked like an ugly duckling...
yes, over half of them had some high dollar bull-barrel AR's. Several of them had compensation built into the bull barrel - fancy stuff too. It was neat seeing 10 different kinds of AR's side by side on the rack... and my little AK on the end lol. Looked like an ugly duckling...
markusej
10-24-2006, 12:57 PM
Hey Nanotech, glad to hear that you had a good time. And yes that shotgun slug stage was kind of brutal. I would say that this match was a little more than we normally shoot. I liked that Ak you had built. My first 3 gun rifle was an SKS with a 30 round magazine. It worked, but was very slow on mag changes. My next rifle was an Ak in 223. I finally bit the bullet and built an AR15. Have you tried our monthly pistol match? Mark J
Nanotech9
10-24-2006, 01:12 PM
no sir havent tried it yet... but i might, if i can drag Chicane and MarkV up there with me and split the gas! Thats a heckuva drive for me since i'm usually heading up from Moore or Norman.
One of these days i'll get the AK all finished out nice... but since i put it together, and it shoots reliably, i havent put much priority on finishing it.
Which fella were you out there? I remember some of the AR's and some of the jackets... .were you in the group I was in? or were you in the group with Richard (tall older gentleman)?
One of these days i'll get the AK all finished out nice... but since i put it together, and it shoots reliably, i havent put much priority on finishing it.
Which fella were you out there? I remember some of the AR's and some of the jackets... .were you in the group I was in? or were you in the group with Richard (tall older gentleman)?
Helmut
10-26-2006, 03:13 PM
Were there guys there using bull barreled AR's?
Mine is one heavy sum-biotch, I don't think I'd like running around with that rifle!
like mine...most of the guys that use JP barrels are their rifles are not full bull barrels.....the are cut down under the handguards.....or fluted
Mine is one heavy sum-biotch, I don't think I'd like running around with that rifle!
like mine...most of the guys that use JP barrels are their rifles are not full bull barrels.....the are cut down under the handguards.....or fluted
markusej
10-27-2006, 02:02 PM
Yes I was on your squad. I had loaned you the shotshell holders. My Ar is one that I put together. It has the light weight govt profile 16 barrel with a miculek comp. It is plenty accurate for 3 gun and is much lighter. I would say the main things for 3 gun rifles are good sights, good trigger, and reliability. I think the next 3 gunmatch I can shoot will be in December. Mark
Nanotech9
10-27-2006, 04:50 PM
cool... and thanks again for the shotshell holders!
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