Scott_In_OKC
09-06-2005, 02:56 PM
Has anyone here taken them? If so any feedback positive or negative? Here is a link to the course descriptions http://www.hhgunrange.com/learning/advanced.asp
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XRF
09-06-2005, 03:23 PM
I have not taken this course but I have taken an AP level 1 twice from another school. It was 2 days(16 hrs) and 1500 rounds min.
I'm not sure what will be learned in 4 to 6 hrs and 50 to 400 rounds. Now if you could roll a few of those classes up back to back that may be good. I like intense training and a lot of trigger time with a lot of instuction. Thats just me though.
I'm not sure what will be learned in 4 to 6 hrs and 50 to 400 rounds. Now if you could roll a few of those classes up back to back that may be good. I like intense training and a lot of trigger time with a lot of instuction. Thats just me though.
SMS
09-09-2005, 01:30 PM
I've taken II, III, and V. Had to skip IV due to work commitments but they let me jump into V. I'll catch the next IV when it comes around again.
Will is a good instructor and the classes help build a good foundation. Definately worth the money in my opinion. Nice easy atmosphere with plenty of shooting. Some of the best practice consists of short periods of training with modest round counts...marathon courses aren't necessary in my opinion. Once shooters fatigue sets in, you aren't learning anything anyway, just sending $$ down range.
If you're not a dirtbag, Will will let you "retread" any class free of charge as long as you help with setup and cleanup.
Will is a good instructor and the classes help build a good foundation. Definately worth the money in my opinion. Nice easy atmosphere with plenty of shooting. Some of the best practice consists of short periods of training with modest round counts...marathon courses aren't necessary in my opinion. Once shooters fatigue sets in, you aren't learning anything anyway, just sending $$ down range.
If you're not a dirtbag, Will will let you "retread" any class free of charge as long as you help with setup and cleanup.
Scott_In_OKC
09-09-2005, 01:33 PM
<== Not a dirtbag. Thanks, I was hoping someone in here had taken the courses and enjoyed them. II and III are being offered in October and I plan on attending those.
SMS
09-12-2005, 10:34 PM
Give it a whirl Scott, I don't think you'll be disappointed.
bratch
09-12-2005, 11:41 PM
How are they about letting people advance ahead. I've taken a couple of classes and would like to go straight to 3.
SMS
09-13-2005, 07:45 AM
It's totally at the lead instructor's discretion. If he knows you either through contact at the range or maybe you took the SDA class there he might let you advance.
The problem I would have run into if I had skipped 2 is that it is the foundation for the rest of the series. Will covers his range procedures, administrative handling of the weapon, and the weapon presentation technique that he uses and encourages others to use, although he puts no pressure on anyone to adapt to his stance or draw, he merely asks that you try it for awhile to see if it works for you.
Even if you are an expert shooter, you will still get more out of the entire catalog if you take all 4 classes, but that's just my opinion. If I am going to expose myself to a new instructor and maybe a new way of shooting, I would rather completely immerse myself rather than splash at the pool, know what I mean?
The problem I would have run into if I had skipped 2 is that it is the foundation for the rest of the series. Will covers his range procedures, administrative handling of the weapon, and the weapon presentation technique that he uses and encourages others to use, although he puts no pressure on anyone to adapt to his stance or draw, he merely asks that you try it for awhile to see if it works for you.
Even if you are an expert shooter, you will still get more out of the entire catalog if you take all 4 classes, but that's just my opinion. If I am going to expose myself to a new instructor and maybe a new way of shooting, I would rather completely immerse myself rather than splash at the pool, know what I mean?
amorak
09-15-2005, 10:05 PM
has anyone taken a course at www.shoot-n-iron.com in shawnee, ok?
if so what course did you take and was it worthwhile.
i have taken some training at Gunsite, Az. was considering furthering my training.
if so what course did you take and was it worthwhile.
i have taken some training at Gunsite, Az. was considering furthering my training.
SMS
09-16-2005, 05:27 PM
I've been interested in their courses for awhile, but time and money keep getting in the way.
One of the other shooters I know took some of Paul Abel's classes and all he had to say was he wished Paul would adopt him....guess that's an endorsement.
One of the other shooters I know took some of Paul Abel's classes and all he had to say was he wished Paul would adopt him....guess that's an endorsement.
amorak
09-16-2005, 09:41 PM
had an internet conversation with mr abel, sounds like a down to earth fellow.
i may go to one of his weekend courses, i might visit it first on a trip back from okc.
i may go to one of his weekend courses, i might visit it first on a trip back from okc.
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