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Old 08-02-2008, 04:34 AM   #1
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Default Senate Vote Is Good News For Gun Rights

Thank God we have a good Senator like Coburn...

Wednesday, July 30, 2008

Gun owners won an important vote in the U.S. Senate this week, when more than three dozen senators stood with Republican Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma in his battle against Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada.

Reid fell eight votes short on Monday of stopping Coburn, who has been using parliamentary maneuvers to keep anti-gun legislation (and pork) from coming to the Senate floor for votes.

Sen. Coburn has placed a "hold" on more than 80 bills since January of last year -- including the bill which recently extended the National Parks gun ban to the Washington-Rochambeau trail.

Under the rules, one senator may block the progress of an objectionable bill by issuing a "hold" -- a maneuver which prevents a bill from speedily moving through the legislative process.

The frustrated dictator of the Senate (a.k.a. Reid) combined 36 of the bills which have come under Coburn's ire into a big omnibus bill and added all kinds of pork to entice senators into supporting the measure. Nevertheless, Reid still fell eight votes short of what was needed to defeat Coburn's holds.

GOA wants to thank all of you who took the time during the last week to urge your senators to stand with Coburn!

VETERANS DISARMAMENT UPDATE

In other Senate news, Richard Burr's bill to repeal large parts of the Veterans Disarmament Act is gaining steam. The Republican senator from North Carolina introduced the Veterans Protection Act (S. 3167) after President Bush signed a gun ban into law this year -- a law which, among other things, disarms military veterans who have been diagnosed with PTSD. The Burr bill, which now has 18 cosponsors, would protect the rights of military veterans and make it more difficult for the Veterans Affairs to deny them their Second Amendment rights.

http://gunowners.org/a073008.htm

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Old 08-02-2008, 09:02 AM   #2
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Coburn is a great senator for us, but Pratt's reporting and poorly described description of the senate legislative process is piss poor. Borders on being dishonest.

Coburn's website doesn't indicate any concern over 2A issues. Coburn is opposed to the process of combining bills and passing them under the 'unanimous consent' rule and the costs involved in this omnibus spending bill. When that happens every senator has to agree and there is no opportunity for debate nor amendments. And no recorded vote. It is a process that allows career Dems and Repubs to pack bills with pork and not be held accountable. But no senator can put a hold on a bill, he can only object to it passing under the unanimous consent rule. Mainstream press doesn't do much better when they talk about all the bills Coburn has a 'hold' on.

Pratt seems to be whoremongering trying to create a 2A issue where it wasn't an issue. A very minor one at best that will soon be decided by the Bush Admn. regarding their policy on carrying in national parks.
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Old 08-02-2008, 09:41 AM   #3
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Coburn is a great senator for us, but Pratt's reporting and poorly described description of the senate legislative process is piss poor. Borders on being dishonest.

Coburn's website doesn't indicate any concern over 2A issues. Coburn is opposed to the process of combining bills and passing them under the 'unanimous consent' rule and the costs involved in this omnibus spending bill. When that happens every senator has to agree and there is no opportunity for debate nor amendments. And no recorded vote. It is a process that allows career Dems and Repubs to pack bills with pork and not be held accountable. But no senator can put a hold on a bill, he can only object to it passing under the unanimous consent rule. Mainstream press doesn't do much better when they talk about all the bills Coburn has a 'hold' on.

Pratt seems to be whoremongering trying to create a 2A issue where it wasn't an issue. A very minor one at best that will soon be decided by the Bush Admn. regarding their policy on carrying in national parks.
Well if that last statement is true then looks like we wont be carrying in National parks.And you think the Vets disarm act is not a 2nd issue..
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Yes, and when they block a vote on our gun right legislation we will be pissed.
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