I'm not so sure. Kirklands makes food that does not contain grains, Exceed contains a high volume of corn. In addition, there are other products in Exceed that are controversial through the FDA such as including vitamin K (this is given to animals following rodenticide toxicity...does that not concern anyone????)
Exceed: Lamb, brewers rice, chicken by-product meal, corn meal, corn gluten meal, ground whole grain sorghum, ground barley, animal fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols, source of vitamin E), dried plain beet pulp, ground flaxseed, natural flavor, monocalcium phosphate, brewers dried yeast, dried egg product, calcium carbonate, salt, potassium chloride, choline chloride, vitamin E supplement, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, l-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate, zinc oxide, fructooligosaccarides, nacin, vitamin A supplement, copper sulfate, biotin, calcium pantothenate, manganous oxide, vitamin B12 supplement, thiamine mononitrate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity), riboflavin supplement, sodium selenite, calcium iodate, folic acid, vitamin D3 supplement, cobalt carbonate
As compared to:
Kirkland: Chicken, chicken meal, whole grain brown rice, cracked pearled barley, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and vitamin E), egg product, beet pulp, potatoes, fish meal, flaxseed, natural flavor, brewers dried yeast, millet, dried chicory root, carrots, peas, kelp, apples, cranberry powder, potassium chloride, salt, choline chloride, rosemary extract, parsley flake, taurine, yucca schidigera extract, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, L-carnitine, biotin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid
Edited to add: I'd just like to throw in here that I feed three 50 pound working dogs for $40 (a grand total) per month on a raw diet that is far superior to a pet receiving corn and treatment for a toxicity they did not receive (unless the food company added it in there for free). If cost and ingredient content are most important, I'd recommend this diet over Exceed any day.
great to see other raw meat feeders on board.
very gratifying seeing allergies my 90lb GSD fought with for years clear up shortly after switching to a raw diet.
learning how to trap wild animals for the raw meat. fur prices hardly pays for fuel. not counting the time to skin/process hides.
same here about feeding any raw meat I can get my hands on.
my one year old female Shepard has only raw diet since 12 weeks old. only exception is when I feed Purina puppy chow and can dog food from Sams when I run short on raw.
very gratifying seeing allergies my 90lb GSD fought with for years clear up shortly after switching to a raw diet.
learning how to trap wild animals for the raw meat. fur prices hardly pays for fuel. not counting the time to skin/process hides.
same here about feeding any raw meat I can get my hands on.
my one year old female Shepard has only raw diet since 12 weeks old. only exception is when I feed Purina puppy chow and can dog food from Sams when I run short on raw.
CY, have you tried Texastripe.com? They make a stop in Tulsa. They're part of the reason I can get chicken so cheap. Fortunately, I also have good friends who send any extra kills made during a season. I regularly get large venison (head off, of course, they can't lose a good rack--lol), goats, sheep, boar, etc.
I still think my favorite thing about raw diet is the poop. Until you live in a multi cat household requiring scooping of the litter box every damn day, I don't think you can truly appreciate raw. And now I never have to pick up poop in my back yard...it rains and washes away
I still think my favorite thing about raw diet is the poop. Until you live in a multi cat household requiring scooping of the litter box every damn day, I don't think you can truly appreciate raw. And now I never have to pick up poop in my back yard...it rains and washes away
Is there a good resource on raw feeding? I have a feeling like I should mix it up beyond my parents' "chicken necks and cottage cheese" program, but I don't know which meaty bones are good for feeding or what the nutritional differences are between chicken, beef, and pork for dogs. Also I'd like to know how to adjust for age (like, which parts of which animals are better for puppies to eat).
The plus side is that a huge portion of protein in my diet comes from fryer chickens that I cut up and prepare in various ways, so raw feeding would give me something to do with the necks, giblets, and carcasses other than "add another 2 gallons of broth to the freezer." (seriously if there's one thing that I don't need more of it's chicken broth)
The plus side is that a huge portion of protein in my diet comes from fryer chickens that I cut up and prepare in various ways, so raw feeding would give me something to do with the necks, giblets, and carcasses other than "add another 2 gallons of broth to the freezer." (seriously if there's one thing that I don't need more of it's chicken broth)
There are tons of resources. Try yahoo groups to start. Google info on BARF diets and species-appropriate diets. There are lots and lots and lots of resources and google is your best friend.
Your parents may be seeing good results with their diet, but pets do not get the best from a raw diet (read: it's not complete) unless they're including raw meaty bones AND organs. The good thing about raw is that you do not need to adjust anything for age, unless of course there are oral problems (although feeding smaller items can help smaller animals). Crappy kibble companies are the ones that made us think that we had to change things around for certain ages. Just make sure you feed foods that can be handled size-wise. Chicken parts are probably the cheapest you'll find: necks, backs, wings, legs, thighs, frames, livers, gizzards, hearts, etc. You should aim to feed a 70/30 ratio of RMB to organs and, yes, they can eat anything off of fryer chickens that you choose not to eat. There's no reason to add veggies or fruits unless you want to and no need to supplement. Everything your pet needs mineral/amino acid wise is contained in the organs and bones of pets--that's where they are mostly stored.
Also, since I'm sure someone is going to bring it up, make sure the bones you feed are raw. Raw bones are safe because they break and go through the digestive tract small. Cooked bones are not bioavailable anymore to pets, they splinter when chewed and pierce the GI tract. In my 10 years, I've pulled god knows how many shards of bones from intestines/colons/stomachs...I've yet to see a case of the same with raw bone. It must mean something if someone who sees those types of problems commonly is willing to 'risk it' on their pet. Again, can't say enough good things about it.
Purina One Lamb & Rice, as recommended by the vet. Depending on how active the day was, she sometimes eats a 1/2 bowl a day to up to 3. Lean mean fighting machine.
Our vet quit using that due to heart worm issues (or something... be a while since she explained it). I don't remember what we get now, but I've gotta get a refill soon for the dog and two cats.
Our vet quit using that due to heart worm issues (or something... be a while since she explained it). I don't remember what we get now, but I've gotta get a refill soon for the dog and two cats.
no have never heard of them.... their web site is down
need to track this down ... always interested in good raw food sources. thank YOU!
I'm a deer hunter, so get my share of deer carcasses for my dogs. also hooked up with my trapping buddies who give me their carcasses after skinning. some weight upwards of 65lbs each. last season had my freezers packed to overflowing.
had to gut them out... sometimes I'll let my dogs feed on an whole carcass guts and all.
need to track this down ... always interested in good raw food sources. thank YOU!
I'm a deer hunter, so get my share of deer carcasses for my dogs. also hooked up with my trapping buddies who give me their carcasses after skinning. some weight upwards of 65lbs each. last season had my freezers packed to overflowing.
had to gut them out... sometimes I'll let my dogs feed on an whole carcass guts and all.
CY, have you tried Texastripe.com? They make a stop in Tulsa. They're part of the reason I can get chicken so cheap. Fortunately, I also have good friends who send any extra kills made during a season. I regularly get large venison (head off, of course, they can't lose a good rack--lol), goats, sheep, boar, etc.
I still think my favorite thing about raw diet is the poop. Until you live in a multi cat household requiring scooping of the litter box every damn day, I don't think you can truly appreciate raw. And now I never have to pick up poop in my back yard...it rains and washes away
The 2 years I've had my black lab I've fed her nothing but Diamond Natural Lamb and Rice Adult formula. I do give her a cup of cottage cheese once a week and occasionally one raw egg in her DN Lamb and Rice.
She was abandoned and I adopted her. When I got her her coat was dry, dull and coarse. Within a month after I put her on the DN Lamb and Rice her coat was slick, soft and shiny.
She leaves very little to pick up after. When it rains her poop just falls apart.
She was abandoned and I adopted her. When I got her her coat was dry, dull and coarse. Within a month after I put her on the DN Lamb and Rice her coat was slick, soft and shiny.
She leaves very little to pick up after. When it rains her poop just falls apart.
She gives us Promeris on the dogs and Advantage Multi on the cats.
