Coburn sold us out!

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BIG_MIKE2005

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Still no reason for him to vote for it. It passed with a good sized buffer.

This is my thinking too. If we know its bad why give it a chance to pass, why vote for it at all? Couldn't it backfire & actually make it's way through now that it's at this point? What happens if the Republican votes they are counting on fail to uphold their end & it passes?
 

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This is my thinking too. If we know its bad why give it a chance to pass, why vote for it at all? Couldn't it backfire & actually make it's way through now that it's at this point? What happens if the Republican votes they are counting on fail to uphold their end & it passes?

Then it goes to the House where it will likely die as every single rep there is running for reelection every election.
 

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I just sent coburn a scathing email, maybe I jumped the gun (no pun intended) and maybe I am too simple minded to understand all of the nuances of the political process but if he voted yes on a straight forward vote like this then in my feeble mind he voted yes. Maybe he had some reason, and I didn't see his statement before I sent the email but I hope the Republicans who voted yes on this hear from their constituents and are booted out of office in 2014. Some folks are like me and don't have the time or the inclination to figure out the political games they play, just be honest and vote yes or no and stop the musical chairs. If you aren't for us then you are against us. Too much to expect I know.
 

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I don't believe any new legislation that further restricts our 2A rights should be brought to debate. Shame on all who voted to put our rights up for debate.
 

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I don't believe any new legislation that further restricts our 2A rights should be brought to debate. Shame on all who voted to put our rights up for debate.

The debate phase of the process is where the merits, and even the Constitutionality, of legislation can, and are intended to be, discussed. Not every issue is clearly defined, so it's a little hard to pre-judge every piece of legislation and not even allow it to the floor for debate.

His "yes" vote simply lets the bill come forward to be seen in the light of day, it's not a vote of support for the bill itelf. It also allows the final votes for or against the bill to be seen and be a permanent part of the voting record of every Senator.
 

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The debate phase of the process is where the merits, and even the Constitutionality, of legislation can, and are intended to be, discussed. Not every issue is clearly defined, so it's a little hard to pre-judge every piece of legislation and not even allow it to the floor for debate.

His "yes" vote simply lets the bill come forward to be seen in the light of day, it's not a vote of support for the bill itelf. It also allows the final votes for or against the bill to be seen and be a permanent part of the voting record of every Senator.
You stop it with your logic and reason. There's no place for that kind of crap around here; Coburn is obviously a witch, and must be burned at the stake. Or do we dunk witches? Maybe we're supposed to pillory him. I forget.
 

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I dont want this being debated. Then it will have a good chance of passing. And we sure dont want that. I would rather it not get debated rather than to just so we know who to vote out.
 

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