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    Default Russian 7.62x39

    What is, or is there, a more reliable imported 7.62x39 ammo? I want to avoid corrosive, so I've been looking at the different Ulys, Tulammos, Bears, Wolfs, etc. Took my brand new Vz58 out Saturday to just give it a test firing, and about maybe 8-10 rounds into the first mag I had a hangfire with some just-purchased Tulammo (actually my 10 year old was shooting it when it "click-banged"). I've considered buying a spam can or two of the Uly ammo from SG, but I've read online where some people have experienced hangfires with it too, and duds, squibs, and hangfires with just about every brand of Russian import. Is that kind of thing just inherent with Russian quality control? Any opinions on which flavor is better, as far as these failures go, or are they all pretty much a crap shoot?
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    I like the Yugo M67. Brass case. Primers are mildly corrosive, so keep that in mind. But it very high quality for surplus. About 2500 rounds of the Yugo M67 through my AMD-65, not one failure, which is really quite remarkable for surplus ammo.
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    I've heard good things about the Yugo stuff, but I want to avoid the corrosive thing altogether. In a bolt gun or something no big deal, but I think it would be hell making sure you get all of the salts out of a semiauto. For a few cents more per round, I'd rather risk a hang fire or dud than messing up a rifle. I'm chicken. I've considered buying some just to put back in case of future need. But for farting around shooting cans, I'd like to keep it non-corrosive.
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    I have shot THOUSANDS of Yugo X39 thru my AK's, and SKS. Dont let the fact that it is corrossive scare you off. It is soooooo easy to clean. I take my AKs in the bathtub and run about 6 funnels worth of hot water down the barrel and about the same down the gas tube. It probably does not make any difference, but then I spay some WD40 down the barrel and the gas tube. I then clean normally as I would any other gun. It takes all of 5 minutes to "water" the gun before cleaning normally. I have never had any issues with rust. I used to take windex in a bottle with me to the range and spray it down the barrel after I shot. Ive never had rust even without doint that...so why bother. FWIW, I find wolf/tula ammo MUCH dirtier (though not corrossive!). I spend longer cleaning after shooting that than I do shooting the Yugo stuff.

    The yugo X39 has been, BY FAR, the most consistent rounds out of my rifles. Not only is is very accurate and consistent, but I have NEVER had a misfire with one and Ive gone thru at least 6 cases. That is over 7K rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjjtulsa View Post
    I've heard good things about the Yugo stuff, but I want to avoid the corrosive thing altogether. In a bolt gun or something no big deal, but I think it would be hell making sure you get all of the salts out of a semiauto. For a few cents more per round, I'd rather risk a hang fire or dud than messing up a rifle. I'm chicken. I've considered buying some just to put back in case of future need. But for farting around shooting cans, I'd like to keep it non-corrosive.
    just disassemble and put in dishwasher. oil when done. LOL

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    Hey CJ how have things been?
    FWIW I have heard nothing but bad things about Tulammo. Things like theres a dud in every box and such.

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    Been doing fine - hanging in, anyway.

    I've considered buying some of the KSAP stuff from Widener's; haven't really heard anything bad about it, but there's very little info in the form of range reports, either. AIM is sold out of it, so that may be a good sign. They're out of Yugo and Wolf Military HPs, too. I'll keep researching in the meantime.

    I see ammoman has Ukrainian ammo imported by Wolf. Wonder if that's any better than some of the Russian stuff?
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    The barnaul ammo sold at Academy shoots fine.....but its DIRTY!!!!

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    I use Wolf all the time in my yugo. It's not corrosive, just dirty.

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    Did you only have one misfire? I've shot several cases of brown bear, wolf, and M67 and none had an issue going bang.

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    Hopes #9 is corrosive neturalizing.
    Just clean it once in a while.

    The corrosive part of the bullet is the salt that is used in the primer, not much there and it takes a while and some moisture to begin being corrosive.
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    Better yet use Ballistol to was out the wash out your gun and neutralize any corrosive salts. It's as simple as this to clean your AK after firing corrosive ammo. Takes about 5 minutes tops when I clean mine. It's so quick and easy.

    Field strip your rifle. Mix 8-10 parts water to 1 part Ballistol in a spray bottle. Spray every thing down with the water and Ballistol. Take garden hose and spray/rinse everything with a jet nozzle. Count everything again with the Ballistol mixture. This time let sit for few minutes. Then a quick scrub down with you brush of choice (I just use a tire/rim brush, and a touthbrush for the knooks and crannies). Rinse again with the garden hose. Quickly dry rifle and parts off with a air compressor. A quick run down the bore and the gas block and tube with a boresnake, and wipe down with you lube of choice. I use straight Ballistol for them. Reassemble and you are done.
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    I think the problem with the Tulammo is the hardness of the primer cup. Once in a while it takes a couple whacks. Don't mind that for general practice but I switch to Wolf (or better) when it matters. I use my mini-30 to hunt with some and I never carry the Tulammo for that. Watching on line can get some pretty good deals on Wolf.

    My Mosin never fails to really hammer (no pun intended) the Tulammo 7.62x54R....goes off every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjjtulsa View Post
    I'd rather risk a hang fire or dud than messing up a rifle.
    Corrosive primers have certainly grown up to become 12 foot tall monsters hell-bent on destroying your rifle in the internet age.

    For decades that was the only type of primer that any smokeless cartridge had -- and strangely I have numerous WWII and pre-WWII firearms that all shot plenty of corrosive ammunition (including gas system semiautos like Garands) that weren't destroyed from all that corrosive ammo. It's not that big of a deal. Seriously.

    Your rifle won't melt...even if it starts to grow a bit surface rust because everything didn't get perfectly clean, it's not that big of a deal. Firearms aren't made of rice paper -- they're extremely robust tools and can stand LOTS more than we as users generally dish out. If you have even the most basic cleaning regimen, you're not going to do any type of damage to it whatsoever.

    Again, not sure why people in the last 10-15 years have grown to so seriously fear corrosive ammo, but such fear is not warranted. I

    That being said...feel free to pass on the great Yugo M67 ammo if you are that dead set on avoiding corrosive, and leave it for the rest for us who want inexpensive quality 7.62x39 and aren't scared of shooting corrosive ammo! Spend more and get peace of mind if that's what makes you happy.

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    I have shot 1000 or so rounds of the Monarch/Barnul ammo that Academy sells. Ive never had a problem. It's $5 a box, laquered, and sealed at the primer and bullet crimp. I have had problems with Ully and tula and they arent laquered or sealed.. If you look at the production dates on the ully and tula you'll see that most of it was made 2-4 years ago! Maybe sitting around that long in a non climate controlled storage area and not being sealed causes the duds??

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