A few personal facts about Ryan.

**been** · 08-11-2012, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by farmerbyron

I like rage against the machine, beastie boys, and a little green day. Doesn't make me any more liberal because of it. Can't a fella just like pissed off music?

Would suck to only listen to Toby Keith, Darryl Worley and Lee Greenwood.

I listen to everything from Bobby Darin, to Avenged Sevenfold. From Ray Price, to Iron Maiden.

**berettaman** · 08-11-2012, 10:23 PM

old chineese proverb:It's better to say nothing and thought of as ignorant then to open mouth and remove all doubt

**farmerbyron** · 08-11-2012, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by been

I listen to everything from Bobby Darin, to Avenged Sevenfold. From Ray Price, to Iron Maiden.

Try Tyga to Ronnie Milsap to Katy Perry to the Beatles. But Michael Jackson still sucks.

**been** · 08-11-2012, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by farmerbyron

Try Tyga to Ronnie Milsap to Katy Perry to the Beatles. But Michael Jackson still sucks.

I refuse to listen to modern "POP" music. Same goes with modern "Country"

Most Music i prefer is Pre-1970

**LightningCrash** · 08-11-2012, 11:12 PM

RATM... now that's a name I've not heard in a long time. A long time.

They rally round the family, with a pocket full of shells.

**ignerntbend** · 08-12-2012, 12:17 AM

Yeah, The guys in Rage Against the Machine were communists. Not communists in the regular OSA hyperbolic sense, but avowed communists. Their music reflected their political beliefs.

In Ryan's defense, we should acknowledge that Republicans only care about poetry if it has a good beat and you can dance to it.
Reagan and the first Bush loved Springsteen.

**ignerntbend** · 08-12-2012, 12:29 AM

Hi there, I'm Paul Ryan. I love commie music and pushing grannies off cliffs. My advisers have advised me to change my nose, because I have an enormous Bozo-like nose. No matter what the "insiders" say, I'm gonna keep my nose, because it's authentic, and I think that's what the people want.

**Boehlertaught** · 08-12-2012, 12:49 AM

I like the guy! And I think you put too much effort into your thinking if you judge the man, or anyone, on the music the listen to. Charles Manson was already crazy and on the path of the unjust when he first heard Helter Skelter. I am 55 years old and strongly believe the bumper sticker "if it is too loud you're too old." listening to CCR, The Doors, The Rolling Stones, Alice Cooper, The Greatfull Dead and other Head Bands while in high school and now still listen to them. As well as Rage Against the Machine, Anthrax, White Zombies. But also jump at any chance to listen to Stevie Nix & Fleetwood Mac. All of this done while being one of the most conservative serious Christians anyone ever met.
So, judge the man not the "hairdo."

**ignerntbend** · 08-12-2012, 12:57 AM

So, judge the man not the "hairdo."[/QUOTE] how can you judge the man without also judging the "hairdo''?
Isn't it possible that the man wears the hairdo so long that he eventually BECOMES the hairdo?
These are just random thoughts from an old man in Ignorant Bend, Oklahoma. I hope you young people won't judge me too harshly.

**bettingpython** · 08-12-2012, 08:50 AM

Lemmings. Unless you listen to **** kicker music all day long you are going to listen to music made by some pretty liberal people, I happen to like RATM as well. Not sure I like Paul Ryan though. Just because he is a hunter does not make him a friend of the second amendment.

Voted YES on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005)

Voted YES on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003)

Voted YES on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. (Jun 1999)

Rated A by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun rights voting record. (Dec 2003)

National cross-state standard for concealed carry. (Jan 2009)

Ban gun registration & trigger lock law in Washington DC. (Mar 2007)

Allow reloading spent military small arms ammunition. (Apr 2009)

None of these votes or the NRA rating substantiates that he is truly 2A friendly.

And let's not mention he voted yes to make the patriot act permanent... unless you thin k that's a good thing.

**Captain Mike** · 08-12-2012, 09:08 AM

From the website: http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Paul_Ryan.htm/

Paul Ryan on Homeland Security
Click here for 16 full quotes on Homeland Security OR background on Homeland Security.
Voted YES on extending the PATRIOT Act's roving wiretaps. (Feb 2011)
Voted NO on requiring FISA warrants for wiretaps in US, but not abroad. (Mar 2008)
Voted NO on Veto override: Congressional oversight of CIA interrogations. (Mar 2008)
Voted YES on removing need for FISA warrant for wiretapping abroad. (Aug 2007)
Voted YES on restricting no-bid defense contracts. (Mar 2007)
Voted YES on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant. (Sep 2006)
Voted YES on continuing intelligence gathering without civil oversight. (Apr 2006)
Voted YES on federalizing rules for driver licenses to hinder terrorists. (Feb 2005)
Voted YES on continuing military recruitment on college campuses. (Feb 2005)
Voted YES on supporting new position of Director of National Intelligence. (Dec 2004)
Voted YES on adopting the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission. (Oct 2004)
Voted YES on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Apr 2003)
Voted YES on permitting commercial airline pilots to carry guns. (Jul 2002)
Voted YES on $266 billion Defense Appropriations bill. (Jul 1999)
Voted YES on deploying SDI. (Mar 1999)
Rated 22% by SANE, indicating a pro-military voting record. (Dec 2003)

**ez bake** · 08-12-2012, 11:09 AM

Two pages to finally get to the actual facts about Ryan. I can't believe anyone on this site is in this guys corner.

**flatwins** · 08-12-2012, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by been

I listen to everything from Bobby Darin, to Avenged Sevenfold. From Ray Price, to Iron Maiden.

(in Homer Simpson voice) Mmmmmmmm......Iron Maiden....

Saw 'em on the Power Slave tour in '85 and in Dallas a couple summers back.

I'm sorry, were we talking about some political topic or some such?

**3inSlugger** · 08-12-2012, 12:14 PM

I listen to RATM also, I just find it hilarious that a GOP VP candidate admitted to listening to it. It would be like Biden admitting to listening to Ted Nugent!

Sounds like Ryan is a Neocon...not a surprise...statist, aggressivist, "safety over liberty" type

**ignerntbend** · 08-12-2012, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by 3inSlugger

I listen to RATM also, I just find it hilarious that a GOP VP candidate admitted to listening to it. It would be like Biden admitting to listening to Ted Nugent!

Sounds like Ryan is a Neocon...not a surprise...statist, aggressivist, "safety over liberty" type

Biden has him a rock and roll band, it's a free-for-all.