So, Martin Crane doesn't believe civilians should own firearms.

**nemesis** · 08-22-2012, 01:04 AM

That was his statement ~the second season of "Frasier", a truly mediocre sitcom. It's not him, but the writers. Writers. People who depend upon freedom to say what they please. Freedom which is guaranteed them via the Constitution.

Yet, they continue to assail the Constitution, viz. the 2nd Amendment. What these fools refuse to admit is that without the 2nd, there will be no 1st.

They're sickening.

**AKguy1985** · 08-22-2012, 01:07 AM

Well the show was set in seattle washington. Not exactly pro gun up there.

**aeropb** · 08-22-2012, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by AKguy1985

Well the show was set in seattle washington. Not exactly pro gun up there.

^^ It fits his character

**TwoForFlinching** · 08-22-2012, 02:18 AM

By mediocre, surely you mean brilliant.

**dustingaunder** · 08-22-2012, 06:31 AM

Feasier was pretty good. Still watch a lot of reruns.

**MDT** · 08-22-2012, 06:37 AM

can't say I would agree with the statement by the writers, however, Frasier was probably one of the most clever/funny shows ever produced.

**Doesn'tPlayWellw/Others** · 08-22-2012, 06:41 AM

I don't believe in Martin Crane.

**WhiteyMacD** · 08-22-2012, 07:25 AM

Mediocre? You have no taste at all.

Does it really matter what an "ex-cop" character says in a TV show? Specially one that had been shot? Kelsey Grammar is one of the biggest "outted" republicans in Hollywood. Why do people insist of politicizing everything? SO MUCH BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH TIME.

**AKguy1985** · 08-22-2012, 07:27 AM

You beat me to it but his character was a retired cop and had been shot in the line of duty.

**WhiteyMacD** · 08-22-2012, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by AKguy1985

You beat me to it but his character was a retired cop and had been shot in the line of duty.

I imagine that played a big role in that statement. Still doesnt bother me in the least. If I were a writer, I would probably through some differing types of character in there too. Takes a pretty mundane and boring mind to want to sit through a sitcom where everyone has the same ideology, religion, etc etc etc. In fact, substitute life for sitcom, and the statement remains true.

Sitcoms like cheers and fraiser just dont exist anymore. They were well written and very entertaining.
Now the Tortellis... that was a complete turd for being a cheers spinoff.

**yukonjack** · 08-22-2012, 07:35 AM

I seriously didn't know that people still watched that drool on network television. I thought only old people like our grandparents watched that stuff. So many channel choices that are clearly much better.

**WhiteyMacD** · 08-22-2012, 07:40 AM

Perhaps you mean... droll?

**10Seconds** · 08-22-2012, 09:05 AM

As an actor, they do have some control over what they say.

I have thought about it before, if I was an actor what would I be willing to do or say. There are certainly certain things that I would not ever allow to come out of my mouth, even as a pretend character.

**Dave70968** · 08-22-2012, 09:08 AM

Heaven forfend someone on TV express an opinion with which you disagree. Freedom should be the freedom to think like you do.

**WhiteyMacD** · 08-22-2012, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by Dave70968

Heaven forfend someone on TV express an opinion with which you disagree. Freedom should be the freedom to think like you do.

That's the thing, we arent even talking about "the actor" saying it, it was the character which is even more recockulous that someone is getting offended.

I mean, I guess we should all be homophobic of the guys in Monty Python for wearing women's clothing.