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    Default Paul Ryan's Cuba decision

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    It would seem that Paul Ryan has changed his mind, and decided that the embargo is a good thing after all. This begs the question, did he really change his mind or are Romney/Ryan pandering to Cuban American voters in Florida? Who thinks it's a legitimate change of heart? Who thinks it's a flip flop?

    Better still, what does everyone think about the embargo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerwings View Post
    It would seem that Paul Ryan has changed his mind, and decided that the embargo is a good thing after all. This begs the question, did he really change his mind or are Romney/Ryan pandering to Cuban American voters in Florida? Who thinks it's a legitimate change of heart? Who thinks it's a flip flop?

    Better still, what does everyone think about the embargo?

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    Hes pandering, flip flopping. We trade and deal with several communist countries, theres no reason to NOT have relations or trade with Cuba.

    A few giant corporations lost businesses when Bautista lost power to Castro, he nationalized those businesses without compensating them, they are still pissed. But they have made up lost revenue by doing business with china.
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    its a flip....he learns fast from the best---recognize your audience say what they want to hear....I'm voting for Romney but I dont like it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker66 View Post
    Hes pandering, flip flopping. We trade and deal with several communist countries, theres no reason to NOT have relations or trade with Cuba.
    Cuba isn't under the influence of the Rothschild central banking system.

    Neither is Iran or North Korea, and neither was Iraq and Libya. Coincidence?
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    Like what was already stated, we do business with a lot worse countries, why not Cuba, bring on the cigars!
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    I thought cigars was Clinton's issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOPBET View Post
    I thought cigars was Clinton's issue.
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    It is the soldier, not the reporter, Who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, Who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the organizer, Who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, Who salutes the flag, Who serves beneath the flag, And whose coffin is draped by the flag, Who allows the protestor to burn the flag

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerwings View Post
    Better still, what does everyone think about the embargo?
    I'll put it this way: for how many US Presidential administrations have the Castros been in power down there? (Answer: nine.)

    The embargo is almost as effective as our failed War on Drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjjtulsa View Post
    Cuba isn't under the influence of the Rothschild central banking system.

    Neither is Iran or North Korea, and neither was Iraq and Libya. Coincidence?
    What is this Rothschild central banking system of which you speak?
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    What is this Rothschild central banking system of which you speak?
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    dude that is the best, LMAO.
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    You know, I understand the principle of the thing. The government of Cuba essentially stole billions of dollars from American taxpayers by nationalizing businesses. That being said, I don't think an embargo is an effective means of encouraging democracy/capitalism when all you're doing is hurting the average Cuban citizen. Furthermore, it isn't the cold war so why do we even care what economic/governmental system another sovereign nation chooses? Why isn't this something that can be negotiated? How about something along the lines of "you give us the $6 billion (estimated) that you stole and we'll start doing business like civilized neighbors again"? Seems to me that this could be an "everyone wins" rather than an "everyone loses" type of situation if either of the two sides would stop being stubborn.

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    From what ive read over the years, our tax payers didnt lose, was a few giant corporations.

    It would be like Iraq booting out all of the U.S. companies. Its the price you pay when you leave American soil. A sovern country has rights and our citizens shouldnt have to bail out those companies.
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