Question about Tulsa Defensive Shooting Academy

**XD-9Guy** · 01-15-2013, 08:40 PM

I have always heard glowing reviews regarding TDSA but being an OKC metro guy I don't find myself in Tulsa unless I'm just making a pit stop to visit friends on my way somewhere else, so I have never given it serious consideration. But either this weekend or the next I will likely have an opportunity to be in Tulsa for most of the weekend so I was hoping their "Mastering the Fundamentals of Marksmanship (Pistol)" class was going to be taught one Saturday or the other. I checked out the website and it says 2013 Calendar Coming Soon... despite the fact that we're two weeks into January - LOL. Does anybody have the inside scoop? Do they teach courses really infrequently and they really haven't had any 2013 classes? Or are they doing regular business and just behind in getting the website updated?(Hoping that's the case!) I'll give them a call tomorrow but I was just curious to know if someone on here knew what their schedule looks like since it seems so many OSAers have taken courses with them.

Also curious to know if anybody has taken the Mastering the Fundamentals of Marksmanship (Pistol) class and what you thought of it. I shoot relatively often but I have always wanted some quality instruction to bring greater accuracy and consistency to my shooting, because I'm typically disappointed with my performance. I mean, I can keep them all inside a silhouette at 10 or 12 yards but I want to get better, hopefully much better than that. So do you think this class fits the bill??? Could you or would you make recommendations for other courses???

**brennan** · 01-15-2013, 09:28 PM

You might PM Marshal Lutton.

**KOPBET** · 01-15-2013, 09:40 PM

It has been my experience that classes don't typically start in a new year until March. Hence the delay on the new calendar. I haven't taken that specific class, but I can say that if you want to get improvement, you WILL get it at TDSA.

Regardless, email (marshallluton@tdsatulsa.com) or PM Marshall and he'll fix you up I'm sure. If you're looking for testimonials, check the website. There are hundreds.

**XD-9Guy** · 01-15-2013, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by KOPBET

It has been my experience that classes don't typically start in a new year until March. Hence the delay on the new calendar.

Rats, I noticed the same thing at carrylegal.com I'm betting these places have outdoor ranges and it's a climate related decision to wait until March.

**KOPBET** · 01-15-2013, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by XD-9Guy

... it's a climate related decision to wait until March.

Yep, accuracy tends to suffer when you're shivering. Regardless, email Marshall for the straight scoop. I've seen guys at his classes from across the country (and across the pond), so don't let a little trip from OKC slow you down.

**foghorn918** · 01-15-2013, 10:17 PM

I took the TDSA ACP1 class and it was a great class and learning experience. I would highly recommend the class. One of fun things we did was getting to test what we'd been taught by ringing some steel at 50 yards with the pistol, very cool!

**ripnbst** · 01-15-2013, 10:38 PM

If you contact them you might be able to just schedule some range time with you and someone and they could give you some pointers for a nominal fee. They are real people ya know. If they would like to get out and heat up some barrels anyway you might give them a good reason to do so.

**XD-9Guy** · 01-15-2013, 11:08 PM

I fear I'm unwilling to brave the temps we've been experiencing lately myself. I'll likely have to wait for warmer temperatures, for some reason I pictured the place being indoors - don't know why, but I did. That's okay, I have some friends in Tulsa that we visit from time to time, another opportunity will present itself. I may also have an opportunity to take a new shooter out if his schedule allows, that'll be time well spent as well.

**gillman7** · 01-16-2013, 12:23 AM

Definitely worth the time and money. I know they were having some issues with zoning on their range, not sure if that got straightened out yet. That may be why they have not posted a schedule yet?

**TallPrairie** · 01-16-2013, 01:03 AM

As was said, their yearly class schedule usually kicks off in March.

TDSA gets my highest recommendation. They are true pros. Their foundational pistol class (ACP I) has a huge amount of thought and experience put into it, and you will see the benefits in your shooting. It is absolutely worth the drive from OKC and a motel room.

**1fast8** · 01-16-2013, 01:21 AM

I have heard a lot of good things about TDSA but even more than that, I was in 2A when a guy came in wanting to pawn his xd 9 (wanted 450 or 500) to pay some dr bills (cancer treatment) marshall handed him 600 and a card to reach him if he wanted the gun back.That told me everything about his character.

**jeffhughes** · 01-16-2013, 03:46 PM

Marshall seems like a good guy. He's getting totally screwed from a range standpoint. Rogers County shut him down, and it appears Tulsa County is doing the same.

I'm sure he is teaching someplace, probably 2A, but that would be private lessons only.

USSA has a similar handgun class coming up, I'm not sure who is teaching it, but that will be a winner too...

**LWysocki** · 01-16-2013, 07:21 PM

great instructors/nice guys, professional course material and presentation: well worth the money

**bettingpython** · 01-20-2013, 09:58 PM

I've done urban rifle 1 and ACP 1 with TDSA scheduled for UR2 last fall but circumstances prevented it. Will be there this spring. Like wysoki says great training great instructors you learn something and improve in any class you take from them.

**XD-9Guy** · 01-20-2013, 10:32 PM

One of their pistol courses is definitely on my short list, I hope that zoning mess that some of you guys mentioned doesn't cause too much trouble. I'm thinking I'll try to find some basic instruction here in the metro area, then I'll pass on the Fundamentals of Marksmanship & when TDSA gets their summer schedule up I may see if I can make the Advanced Combat Pistol I.