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    Default Feral hogs in OK

    An interesting video on the spread and concentration of feral/wild hogs across OK, including a technology approach to removal around the 5:00 mark:

    http://sunup.okstate.edu/category/se...-1/032313-pigs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poke78 View Post
    An interesting video on the spread and concentration of feral/wild hogs across OK, including a technology approach to removal around the 5:00 mark:

    http://sunup.okstate.edu/category/se...-1/032313-pigs

    Good Video.

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    Thanks for posting this!

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    Isn't hunting via the internet against the law?

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    That trap is awesome. But from what I'm hearing, there are a lot of landowners who have pig problems, but won't allow people to hunt. I don't understand this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okiebryan View Post
    That trap is awesome. But from what I'm hearing, there are a lot of landowners who have pig problems, but won't allow people to hunt. I don't understand this.
    There are several reasons this happens.
    As a landowner, I can give first hand explanation.

    Primarily, landowners reserve the ground for hunting by relatives.
    Some People that think that big old patch of ground looks deserted, and they don't see any reason why they shouldn't go on the property at will and shoot whatever they want.
    I have found remenants of meth labs, fences cut, bags of household trash and appliances thrown into the creek, to be scattered across my land when it floods, gates left open with livestock inside, and vehicle tracks across a newly planted wheat field. My barn has been broken into twice.
    I've had people arrested or ticketed for criminal trespass because they shot from the road, and trespassed on my land to recover the illegally shot animal.
    Thats just a small list of reasons landowners don't welcome the general public to help with pig eradication.

    Also some landowners charge lease fees to anybody wanting to hunt on their land, and at times it can be pretty steep.
    I can tell you from first hand experience, these last two years of drought have made scrabbling in the dirt a very non-profitable business to be in, and I don't blame anybody one bit trying to make a few bucks to make that $350,000 tractor payment.
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    Very interesting video. The drop trap is a pretty good idea.
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    Theres not a feral hog problem. Anyone can hunt hogs on public land, so its not really a problem there.

    If hogs are on private land and are causing problems, solve the problem. Build a better fence, use bait and traps, allow hunters to eradicate them. Theres no law saying a farmer has to use a 4 strand barb wire fence.

    And the guys tresspassing, poaching and disrespecting landowners, prolly aint the nice guy asking permission. The respectable guy asking to hunt is the guy who can help the "poor" farmer/ranchers with this problem. Plus the respectable permission speaker would prolly swap some labor rebuilding the damage from the hogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker66 View Post
    Theres not a feral hog problem. Anyone can hunt hogs on public land, so its not really a problem there.

    If hogs are on private land and are causing problems, solve the problem. Build a better fence, use bait and traps, allow hunters to eradicate them. Theres no law saying a farmer has to use a 4 strand barb wire fence.

    And the guys tresspassing, poaching and disrespecting landowners, prolly aint the nice guy asking permission. The respectable guy asking to hunt is the guy who can help the "poor" farmer/ranchers with this problem. Plus the respectable permission speaker would prolly swap some labor rebuilding the damage from the hogs.
    In reality from a 1st person perspective, most given permission to hunt for a given specie, will assume they have lifetime permission for anything from that point on, and permission to bring a bevy of friends to take advantage of the permission even though it was not given to them. There is always the exception to the rule though. Those folks do get permission year after year.

    As the video said: hunting will never eradicate, nor control the hog population. two pigs out of a sounder of 20 does nothing with their prolific breeding cycle.

    I really like the drop trap to get the whole sounder.

    Some states are considering making hog hunting illegal. Reason is, some want to go commercial, and hold out, letting the herd grow to get a hunting operation going. That defeats the entire purpose of eradication programs.
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    I agree. Theres several solutions to the hog population. We eradicated buffalo, wolves, and bears and a few others, we could do the same with hogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker66 View Post
    I agree. Theres several solutions to the hog population. We eradicated buffalo, wolves, and bears and a few others, we could do the same with hogs.
    I hope that is sarcasm, as the pigs are not a native specie.

    Actually Bison, Wolves, and bears have came back far enough that hunting is allowed in lots of states now.
    Bears have never been endangered. Grizzly Bears south of Canada have been listed as endangered, but have been de-listed as well as the wolves in most states.
    Bison have been coming back, and huntable populations in free ranging conditions are available in some states with the draws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dennishoddy View Post
    In reality from a 1st person perspective, most given permission to hunt for a given specie, will assume they have lifetime permission for anything from that point on, and permission to bring a bevy of friends to take advantage of the permission even though it was not given to them.
    More than any other issue, this is at the top of the heap. Also, once it's opened for any Tom, Dick, or Harry many times they'll pass on that "permission" to their buddies as well.
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    One of the issues with hogs. They have a very short gestational cycle. One sow can have two litters a year. I would like to see the Oklahoma National Gaurd go up with gun ships and 50 cal's and work em over. Good practice for them.
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    I think that the hog population will continue to grow until a few folks get killed and eaten by feral hogs.

    Then the wheels of science will begin to turn and will produce an effective control.

    Two possibilities come to mind.

    One is an epidemic, either manmade or natural. Population density makes this more and more likely as a natural occurrence. African herd beasts have been known to die out by species down to 3% or so of the peak population. Could happen to deer too because they are so thick. I have seen entire commercial swine operations wiped out by hog cholera, and if I recall correctly there are around 140 diseases that hogs get.

    A second possibility is a species specific birth control chemical offered as bait. Not sure if we have the science for this yet, but suspect it is possible.

    Having said that, I love to hunt hogs, but am under no illusion as to the effectiveness of hunting as a control. Not enough hunters, not enough access, and hogs are damned smart once hunting pressure builds up.

    Are our Guardies toting 50s in their helicopters now? No collateral damage likely there.

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    Bacon will rule the world. Animal farm will come true.

    What we need to do is cash in and create a specific industry just for hogs. Put hogs on the throne. Make hog hunting prestigious.

    Calls, camo, decoys, bait, bullets, guns, bows, arrows, stands, books, magazines, seminars, clubs and foundations/ federations. Like the deer, turkey, duck, pheasant and predator industry.

    We need to make hog hunting prestegious, fit for kings, instead of a 2nd class sport for rednecks.

    Hogs just dont get the respect they deserve. Like catfish, gar an carp compared to trout and bass.


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