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Something to remember about 'SALE' time at dealerships....you can usually do better when a dealership isn't having a 'sale'...they have to pay for all those balloons and fancy/smancy ribbon-tape plus the advertising....auto prices will be higher(except on the bait and switch cars)
On the good side, I can recommend Reynolds in Norman; I've been dealing with them for decades, and they've always done right by me. Crossroads Chrysler used to be good, too (I bought my Explorer there), but I don't know if the GM who made it a good store is still there.
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Dude car dealerships are scum. "David Stanley leads the way" in scum.
That being said, I've bought 3 cars from them since 2011. The thing with them is that you have to go in knowing they are gonna screw you. The way I handle them is that I get the best deal I can then go through financing , then right before I sign the papers. I pause and say..."this deal isn't going to work. I've changed my mind." So I turn the bait and switch tables on them. They've already got a call on your deal and their money is basically in the bank, they don't want to lose you at that point. THAT'S the point that they will concede and you'll get a super cheap extended warranty and a few or more thousand off the deal. I hate having to do that but if they are not going to play fair, neither am I. I'm not bluffing either, I'll be happy to walk out of financing if they don't deal some more.
You reacted like you should. Of course you got bait and switched. If this was NOT the car in the add, they should have told you from the get go. But they want to sell cars and they want to beat down through the whole process so you'll just relent and do the deal.
I've bought a ton of cars, We go through them more often than most. For years I had a great thing going at Reynolds Ford. We had a very honest sales guy. He was upfront every time. He's tell us if the deal could get done before we ever started a deal. It didn't always result in a sale for him but he still sold us several cars and I sent him a ton of referrals. Unfortunately he retired and I've struggled to find a good place to buy cars.
Some recent dealings include Randall Reed.. They flat out bold faced lied to me in s blatant bait and switch, so bad I filed a complaint with Ford corp and BBB. Also Seth Watley lied out their azz to me. That was so bad we drove all the way to Purcell only to find they couldn't do the deal we were promised. I pitched a fit and made them buy me a tank of gas. Lol
Anyway, car dealerships suck. I wish I wasn't such a new car addict. Buying a good used car from an individual is the "smartest" choice.
Last edited by daytomann; 06-30-2013 at 09:28 AM.
I would avoid dealerships.
Research online for cars with highest resale value and reliability.
Buy slightly used from an individual.
Enjoy your long lasting, value holding vehicle that you got a stress free good deal on.
I would call the factory reps and let them know of the advertising tactics
Notice how they KEPT the ad. ??????????????? Nothing fishy here, continue on people.
Like Davs says, contact regional rep, and get a copy of the ad. File complaint with BBB. Dealerships are scum, but some are scummier than others.
Even when buying NEW, research pricing online, go in prepared, you are playing their game on their home field.
When I was a teenager, I worked for a company that was a vendor of David Stanley. I spent countless hours working on their lot. I can't begin to tell you what terrible things I witnessed.
Thanks for all of the responses.
I added this to the original post, but here's a picture of the ad.
The car this discussion is about is the one at the top. It shows a stock photo, the year/model, the stock number, the purchase price and, from what I was told, the monthly payment if someone were to lease it.
Fowler Dodge once advertised new Jeeps for $12,999 and showed a whole row of new Wranglers. I called them the next morning and was told that it was a Jeep Patriot for $12,999. The commercial ran for days to come and pissed me off every time I saw it. The commercial showed nothing but Wranglers. Not a Patriot in sight.
The best experience I have ever had buying a car was from Smicklas Chevrolet on NW Expway. Went to DS Dodge and will never go back and they do the bait and switch. Smicklas is everything DS isn't.
Report the practice to the Oklahoma Attorney general for a little fun. Nothing is likely to happen off of your but if many others do the same it would start some sh@#
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I still purchased there because I ended up working them over to my favor in the end with my signing table tactics. There was no way id have done the deals otherwise.
Also I don't particularly blame sales people, it's a job at least. Their role is to show people the vehicles and direct/pressure them inside to work deals. They are just warm bodies with no actual authority. It's the dealerships policies, practices and they way they go to market that's to blame. Its highly competitive and they resort to these tactics to drive people in the doors, some they get to, some they don't.
Just remember, they are the advisary , they are wanting max profit, they are not there to earn your business, if its too good to be true, it probably is, there's no free money, scratch off, coupons, keys and codes are all scams.
Last edited by daytomann; 06-30-2013 at 01:04 PM.
I have bought one vehicle from a David Stanley dealership and would never do it again. Nor would I ever suggest anyone buying from them. Last car I purchased was from a Pryor dealership. I would ride a donkey to work before I ever step onto one of their lots again.