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    Default how to check if a gun may be stolen

    i am thinking about purchasing a gun off of a private seller is there anyway you can check to make sure it is not stolen

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    If you have your doubts, maybe you should abort the deal.

    I'm just sayin'.

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    It used to be, I'd just call NCIC. Got the number from a buddy. We used it when buying old Harley frames and engine cases a lot. One day, they asked me for my commission number. Musta been a new policy. Anyway, I explained that I was just a regular schmoe, and that was the end of that. That was in the early 1990s. Got no idea now.

    Got any police friends? That's what I'd do, if I was concerned. Get a bill of sale, DL #. One guy even took a picture of me. No big deal. I'm real pretty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock 'em down View Post
    If you have your doubts, maybe you should abort the deal.

    I'm just sayin'.
    Very good point

    But I would think a police station could/would check for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syclone2985 View Post
    Very good point

    But I would think a police station could/would check for you
    If they do...and it is...you COULD be charged with possession of stolen property.

    If you're lucky enough NOT to be charged with such, the weapon will DEFINITELY be seized and then you gotta explain to the guy where "his" gun is.

    Good luck.

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    could always have it transferred to you via FFL

    I think any problems would be flagged and you wouldn't be out money (wouldn't transfer a stolen gun to you) or trying to explain how you have a stolen gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dave View Post
    It used to be, I'd just call NCIC. Got the number from a buddy. We used it when buying old Harley frames and engine cases a lot. One day, they asked me for my commission number. Musta been a new policy. Anyway, I explained that I was just a regular schmoe, and that was the end of that. That was in the early 1990s. Got no idea now.

    Got any police friends? That's what I'd do, if I was concerned. Get a bill of sale, DL #. One guy even took a picture of me. No big deal. I'm real pretty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock 'em down View Post
    the weapon will DEFINITELY be seized and then you gotta explain to the guy where "his" gun is.

    Good luck.
    I had a friend who had a buddy of mine,an OSBI agent,check a gun he bought at a gun show and it came back stolen.My agent buddy had no choice but to seize the weapon.Buy guns at gun shows from individuals at your own risk.If you buy from a dealer,you may pay a little more but you will have recourse if it shows up later as stolen. Steve
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    Default Re: how to check if a gun may be stolen

    i had a guy buy a 1891 mosin from me at a gunshow, he kept asking me if it was stolen, i was kind of insulted because i had bought it from a board sponsor, and of course no it wasnt hot

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    thank you all for your info decieded not to purchase it

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    Quote Originally Posted by rct84 View Post
    thank you all for your info decieded not to purchase it
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    you know... i personally think a firearm transferred through an FFL could STILL be stolen. I'm not 100% positive that that serial number is run through NCIC etc.


    let me explain...

    say.... you buy a gun at a pawn shop... that took the gun in on a pawn and was never re-claimed... but the gun pawned wasn't theirs to pawn (but hey, all they have to do is lie on the pawn slip and say it was theirs).... instead, maybe it was a borrowed gun.

    Then a few days, weeks, or months later, the original owner finds out the gun was pawned by the person who borrowed it, files a police report, and now the new owner of the firearm that purchased it legally from the pawn shop is now the proud owner of a STOLEN firearm, and has to give it up to the popo.

    Interesting thought huh?

    could happen through any FFL or anyone anywhere. Gun sold to someone, sold again, through an FFL, etc etc etc. Original owner realizes his buddy has effed him over and files a stolen gun report. You now own a stolen firearm that you purchased on a 4473. Hummmmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by rct84 View Post
    thank you all for your info decieded not to purchase it
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    Don't EVEN get me started on this subject - it's probably my biggest gun-related pet peeve - there absolutely should be a way for anyone to check, anytime, on a simple website, before a prospective purchases.

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    Default Re: how to check if a gun may be stolen

    Quote Originally Posted by Nanotech9 View Post
    you know... i personally think a firearm transferred through an FFL could STILL be stolen. I'm not 100% positive that that serial number is run through NCIC etc.


    let me explain...

    say.... you buy a gun at a pawn shop... that took the gun in on a pawn and was never re-claimed... but the gun pawned wasn't theirs to pawn (but hey, all they have to do is lie on the pawn slip and say it was theirs).... instead, maybe it was a borrowed gun.

    Then a few days, weeks, or months later, the original owner finds out the gun was pawned by the person who borrowed it, files a police report, and now the new owner of the firearm that purchased it legally from the pawn shop is now the proud owner of a STOLEN firearm, and has to give it up to the popo.

    Interesting thought huh?

    could happen through any FFL or anyone anywhere. Gun sold to someone, sold again, through an FFL, etc etc etc. Original owner realizes his buddy has effed him over and files a stolen gun report. You now own a stolen firearm that you purchased on a 4473. Hummmmmm
    In a perfect world, that won't happen because all pawn tickets are SUPPOSSED to be hand delivered to the local PD at least once a week. The gun that was pawned is suppossed to stay in pawn and not released for public sale for at least 30 days.

    If the PD does it's job and runs an NCIC check on each and every pawned firearm, if one is REPORTED stolen, then it will show up.

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