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    Thumbs down Problems with Rossi Youth Rifle 223

    A few weeks ago, I bought a Rossi Youth Rifle 223 for my 10 year old son. We have had nothing but problems with this gun. On the first day we took it out to the range and spent an hour trying to get the first round to fire. I was using Federal 223 55grain. The hammer was striking the primer but rounds would not fire. Placed the same rounds in my AR and fired no problem. The gunsmith at the range house messed with it a while......took off the hammer extension to see if that was creating problems with the hammer spring. Put some Black Hills ammo in it and it fired flawlessly. Put the Federal 223 back in it and it WOULD NOT fire. Sent it back to ROSSI to get a new hammer spring....got it back went to the range.....same problem mentioned above....

    Anyone else heard/having problems with this gun......needless to say my son was extremely disappointed......

    I know....don't buy Rossi........first mistake

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    The one's I've seen have worked, but their accuracy and trigger left something to be desired.

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    Default Re: Problems with Rossi Youth Rifle 223

    primer dimpled or is it just scratched or what? tried different ammo
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    Could be the hammer extrusion is set wrong, so it doesn't strike into the primer far enough. It's tough to tell without seeing the primers.

    Is the firing pin floating or is it directly attached to the hammer?

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    The primers are dimpled.....you look at them and think it should have fired.....like I said, it fired the Black Hills ammo with no problems....

    Rossi told me to just shop around and find ammo that works.......negative...not a good answer. I don't know anyone who would buy a firearm that may not fire all major brands of ammo.....

    Not Happy with Rossi at all.....never buy another one.....

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    directly attached.......

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    My Rossi I had in .243 fired fine, and had a great trigger, but accuracy was so-so, and worst part is, it flies open every time you fire it. Makes for quick reloading, but made me a bit scared to shoot it.

    As for your problem, I'm stumped on that - I don't see how that could occur (fire others but not federal). Since it's not the spring, it must be a too-short pin.

    Send it to Rossi with a letter (as always, Certified, RRR) telling them that this is unacceptable - and that they have exactly 3 choices here:

    1. Fix it so that it works with Federal,
    2. Refund your entire purchase price, plus tax, plus all your shipping to send it in, or
    3. Get sued, because it is defective

    You are correct that that is unacceptable, in my view. In fact, they are putting you and your child in danger of a hangfire!

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    don't shoot federal ammo. Shoot black hills and try some other ammo.

    Don't threaten something you cannot back up. Sue them..why is this always the answer.

    Lots of guns are finicky with different ammo. Sometimes ammo has a hard primer, many times military ammo does. Does it make it bad, or the gun bad, nope. Find what your gun likes and shoot it. No problemo. An inexpensive gun might just have a few limitations, if you want perfection and do all, then probably wrong weapon. If you want something that will send a bullet down range, once you find what it likes, then you are in business.

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    I did send it back to ROSSI with a long detailed letter of what was wrong and how I was displeased with their product. They sent it back and still has a problem firing the Federal 223 rounds. I should know better....cheap price, cheap gun.

    For the most part, no one should have to worry about whether or not their gun will shoot federal rounds......it is not like I bought some cheap re-loads in a back alley somewhere.......In my line of work, I have never experienced a problem like this before.....then again...I don't shoot cheap guns.......guess I will buy a different youth rifle for my son and spread the word about Rossi Youth Rifle 223.......

    Thanks for the info

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    Pick up a nice used gun (Remington, savage, etc) somewhere for a cheap price. With enough looking you could probably snag one for around the same price as that Rossi. It may not be a looker, but at least it will go bang! (Which is what I cared about most shooting at 10 years old, haha)

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    .223 primer hardness varies a lot. I think it may have to do with mil spec vs civilian use specs. Still, the Rossi people need to fix the problem. I have had good luck with their revolvers and their single shot rifles, but this sucks. CB

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    don't shoot federal ammo. Shoot black hills and try some other ammo.
    Why shouldn't he be able to shoot anything? It's not like it's military hard-primer ammo.


    Don't threaten something you cannot back up.
    He can back it up. He can sue them for a defective product if they don't make it right.


    Sue them..why is this always the answer.
    It's not. Nor is the lower thresshold of action I recommended as a possibility - just threatening to do so. But sometimes they are the right approach. Maybe one more time back with failure to fix before threatening action. But it sounds like they are being obtuse to him, and something needs to get their attention - they should have tested the rifle *before* sending it back to him the first time, given the known problem. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, and the big company will screw over the little guy every time if they don't complain and demand a good quality product. These things are made in Argentina, where labor is cheap, and they sell a ton of them - they should work well, even with a low price.

    Lots of guns are finicky with different ammo.
    Semi-autos can be finnicky on feeding. That is acceptable in some cases. Failure to launch is unacceptable - sounds like a too-short pin.


    Sometimes ammo has a hard primer, many times military ammo does.
    Yes, but this ain't military ammo (is it?)


    Does it make it bad, or the gun bad, nope.
    I disagree. Failure to fire is unacceptable, and represents a defect, and most certainly makes the gun "bad".

    Find what your gun likes and shoot it. No problemo. An inexpensive gun might just have a few limitations, if you want perfection and do all, then probably wrong weapon.
    He doesn't want perfection; he simply wants it to FIRE standard ammo, and not risk injury from a hangfire. Not asking too much is it?

    If there's one thing I'm convinced of, it's that WE the consumers must start to, and keep on, demanding quality merchandise, and demanding that companies back up their products. They're getting shoddier and shoddier, and the warranties & service are also getting shoddier & shoddier, as time goes by. It's a trend we must resist.



    EDIT: Please throw out my entire post here if this was military ammo with hard primers: I thought that you meant commercial .223 ammo from Federal, with 55 grainers - that is implied since you said .223, not 5.56x45. Which is it - commercial target/hunting .223 rem ammo, or Federal-made 5.56x45mm .mil ball ammo? If the former, then my posts makes sense. If the latter - then I agree with ssgrock - you can't expect it to necessarily shoot hard-primer .mil ammo - wholly different specification of primer hardness there.

    I was using Federal 223 55grain

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    Federal 55gr could very well be Lake City ammo with a hard primer.

    What is the head stamp?

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    Federal has a tendency to make hard primers. I had a Browning A-Bolt and a Remington 700 that would shoot it, but there were occasional misfires with light primer strikes, mixed in with others in the same box that shot fine. If the gun is made within manufacturers specs, and the gun works fine with other brands of ammo, you can kiss law suit goodbye. It's a ridiculous option if it works fine with other ammo.

    Want to sue someone, sue Federal for making hard primers.

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