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<blockquote data-quote="donner" data-source="post: 3449190" data-attributes="member: 277"><p>But she isn't an agent, nor did she say that she would use the power of law to make it a 'must' if elected. </p><p></p><p>And again, no, supporting the same things does not immediately mean you support the same ends. That old 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' adage comes to mind. Just because both BLM and Libertarians see value in ending things like qualified immunity, does not mean that both groups immediately support the same ultimate goal politically. </p><p></p><p>Both members of right wing militias and members of the new Black Panther party can agree that the government is infringing on our 2A rights and both can want the government to stop. It's common ground. What happens after that is likely vastly divergent for each group. But recognizing that the same obstacle exists for both groups does not require each to endorse the entirety of the other group's values. </p><p></p><p>There will certainly be calls for ending the electoral college, but how third parties perform in an election doesn't immediately contribute to that. For one thing, you cannot say that people who voted for gary johnson would have otherwise voted for Trump. They could have simply not voted for President at all. And Clinton's total also suffered from those that voted for Jill Stein, so without the green party candidate, perhaps Clinton's total in the popular vote would have been greater.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="donner, post: 3449190, member: 277"] But she isn't an agent, nor did she say that she would use the power of law to make it a 'must' if elected. And again, no, supporting the same things does not immediately mean you support the same ends. That old 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' adage comes to mind. Just because both BLM and Libertarians see value in ending things like qualified immunity, does not mean that both groups immediately support the same ultimate goal politically. Both members of right wing militias and members of the new Black Panther party can agree that the government is infringing on our 2A rights and both can want the government to stop. It's common ground. What happens after that is likely vastly divergent for each group. But recognizing that the same obstacle exists for both groups does not require each to endorse the entirety of the other group's values. There will certainly be calls for ending the electoral college, but how third parties perform in an election doesn't immediately contribute to that. For one thing, you cannot say that people who voted for gary johnson would have otherwise voted for Trump. They could have simply not voted for President at all. And Clinton's total also suffered from those that voted for Jill Stein, so without the green party candidate, perhaps Clinton's total in the popular vote would have been greater. [/QUOTE]
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