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ATF used "Fast and Furious" to make the case for gun regulations
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<blockquote data-quote="Glocktogo" data-source="post: 1826554" data-attributes="member: 1132"><p>That is an incredibly short sighted article that's conveniently leaving out several important facts. If Americans had even a miniscule shred of memory in their sugar substitute addled brains, they'd remember the HUGE push by the Obama Administration for gun control using Mexican cartel violence as the excuse. They implemented a coordinated effort between the DoJ, DHS and State Dept. that was working hand in hand with Mexican officials to push for further restrictions, making wild claims about 90% of the guns used criminally in Mexico coming from the U.S., which was a blatant lie. </p><p></p><p>Add the fact that there's a sister operation to F&F called Castaway in Florida, which would suggest that this is not an isolated program that was the brainchild of a field level DoJ attorney or ATF agent in Phoenix. Further, if it were a renegade op developed in the field, DoJ and Obama would be more than willing to throw the perpetrators to the wolves. That they haven't is a conspicuous oversight. More to the point, not one single official in the DoJ or BATFE have been placed on paid leave pending outcome of the investigation, which is SOP for any agency upholding any level of professional standards. Worse yet, William G. McMahon, William D. Newell and David Voth all received post F&F promotions, the worst of which was McMahon, who was promoted to deputy assistant director of the ATF's Office of Professional Responsibility and Security Operations (the division that investigates misconduct by employees and other issues, to include whistleblowers of the type that broke the F&F story).</p><p></p><p>I'll add one more item for consideration. We're talking about an op that directly authorized the criminal introduction of so-called "assault rifles" in large quantities, into the sovereign territory of a neighboring nation. Do you really think some low level supervisory field agent or attorney approved this on their own without approval from HQ? If so, then you've obviously never worked for a federal agency. I can tell you for a fact that it would be an instant career suicide to do such a thing. </p><p></p><p>With the DoJ refusing to provide documents to Congress, refusing to make witnesses available, refusing to suspend or at least not promote those directly involved in the case, how could anyone come to the conclusion that this wasn't a politically motivated op? There is absolutely a smoking gun out there somewhere with very high level fingerprints on it. The only real question is, will it ever be found? <img src="/images/smilies/frown.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-shortname=":(" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glocktogo, post: 1826554, member: 1132"] That is an incredibly short sighted article that's conveniently leaving out several important facts. If Americans had even a miniscule shred of memory in their sugar substitute addled brains, they'd remember the HUGE push by the Obama Administration for gun control using Mexican cartel violence as the excuse. They implemented a coordinated effort between the DoJ, DHS and State Dept. that was working hand in hand with Mexican officials to push for further restrictions, making wild claims about 90% of the guns used criminally in Mexico coming from the U.S., which was a blatant lie. Add the fact that there's a sister operation to F&F called Castaway in Florida, which would suggest that this is not an isolated program that was the brainchild of a field level DoJ attorney or ATF agent in Phoenix. Further, if it were a renegade op developed in the field, DoJ and Obama would be more than willing to throw the perpetrators to the wolves. That they haven't is a conspicuous oversight. More to the point, not one single official in the DoJ or BATFE have been placed on paid leave pending outcome of the investigation, which is SOP for any agency upholding any level of professional standards. Worse yet, William G. McMahon, William D. Newell and David Voth all received post F&F promotions, the worst of which was McMahon, who was promoted to deputy assistant director of the ATF's Office of Professional Responsibility and Security Operations (the division that investigates misconduct by employees and other issues, to include whistleblowers of the type that broke the F&F story). I'll add one more item for consideration. We're talking about an op that directly authorized the criminal introduction of so-called "assault rifles" in large quantities, into the sovereign territory of a neighboring nation. Do you really think some low level supervisory field agent or attorney approved this on their own without approval from HQ? If so, then you've obviously never worked for a federal agency. I can tell you for a fact that it would be an instant career suicide to do such a thing. With the DoJ refusing to provide documents to Congress, refusing to make witnesses available, refusing to suspend or at least not promote those directly involved in the case, how could anyone come to the conclusion that this wasn't a politically motivated op? There is absolutely a smoking gun out there somewhere with very high level fingerprints on it. The only real question is, will it ever be found? :( [/QUOTE]
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