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<blockquote data-quote="Glocktogo" data-source="post: 1582531" data-attributes="member: 1132"><p>I don't think an act of violence was threatened in this case. At a minimum, your definition of violence and mine differ significantly. I think there's a solution to your concerns in this particular case:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]93874[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Mind citing the case reference? I'm assuming you're leaning on the "aid" or "assist" here, since none of the OP's stated actions would come close to meeting any of the other elements. I don't see how confirming something the fugitive already knew and recommending turning themselves in would be considered aiding or assisting. A citizen has no duty to lie for the police. Besides, the fugitive's ascertation that the owner told her the police were looking for her is heresay and not admissible in court. Without an admission from the OP, an arrest for aiding a fugitive would be baseless in this case.</p><p></p><p>An officer asserting their arrest powers when an arrest isn't warranted is a coersion tool, used to make their job easier. They're expected to get results and what he wanted was better cooperation in the future. Because the OP recognizes that the threat was hollow, it backfired on the officer in this case. Don't forget though, it's not illegal for the police to lie to you, only for you to lie to the police. <img src="/images/smilies/frown.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-shortname=":(" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glocktogo, post: 1582531, member: 1132"] I don't think an act of violence was threatened in this case. At a minimum, your definition of violence and mine differ significantly. I think there's a solution to your concerns in this particular case: [attach=full]93874[/attach] Mind citing the case reference? I'm assuming you're leaning on the "aid" or "assist" here, since none of the OP's stated actions would come close to meeting any of the other elements. I don't see how confirming something the fugitive already knew and recommending turning themselves in would be considered aiding or assisting. A citizen has no duty to lie for the police. Besides, the fugitive's ascertation that the owner told her the police were looking for her is heresay and not admissible in court. Without an admission from the OP, an arrest for aiding a fugitive would be baseless in this case. An officer asserting their arrest powers when an arrest isn't warranted is a coersion tool, used to make their job easier. They're expected to get results and what he wanted was better cooperation in the future. Because the OP recognizes that the threat was hollow, it backfired on the officer in this case. Don't forget though, it's not illegal for the police to lie to you, only for you to lie to the police. :( [/QUOTE]
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