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<blockquote data-quote="crrcboatz" data-source="post: 2548960" data-attributes="member: 32702"><p>We are the only country in the world that requires EVERY student receive and education 12-13 yrs. That statement includes the severely handicapped, felony convicted minors, etc. That said we are the only ones that include those mentioned in our test scores. That is a pretty large cup to fill. Our brightest can and do compete with the world's best in math and science. So if the zealots out there that are throwing our scores around in comparison with the remainder of the world want to compete on fair field, lets not expect the impossible. Now I am <strong>NOT</strong> saying all children do not have a right to a free and appropriate education. I am saying lets compare apples to apples. Most of the world only has 50% or less of the student population in high school today. What is the answer? It certainly is not to strip the best out to be farmed out to every charter school or religious private school that pops up with the public funds that go with that child. Why some say? Here's why because if public schools can <strong>hand pic</strong> or should I say cherry pic their students the test scores would be far different when compared to private schools and charter schools. Remember the public schools are required by law to take <strong>EVERY</strong> thug, truant, abusive, uninterested, lazy student in this country, without regard for all the previously stated problems. Private schools and charter schools <strong>cull</strong> those folks if they so desire. <strong> Lets restructure the process</strong>. Lets say hey if you don't want to come to school, your parents don't care if you go or what you do after arriving there, etc then hey after the 8th grade those students have a choice, take the vo tech route or go home. Remember we have all these unfilled seats at our vo tech schools that could be filled. Tulsa Vo tech alone has 2 campuses, West campus and Owasso that are not nearly filled. Lets let them educate those for a while instead of turning their backs on them in the selection process. Let public schools catch their breath and began to educate those who are genuine students. You'd see test scores go up in a heartbeat. Our state, and the nation would quit beating the public school system to death because they'd finally be on a level playing field. Most of all those in high school would truly have an opportunity to grow educationally.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="crrcboatz, post: 2548960, member: 32702"] We are the only country in the world that requires EVERY student receive and education 12-13 yrs. That statement includes the severely handicapped, felony convicted minors, etc. That said we are the only ones that include those mentioned in our test scores. That is a pretty large cup to fill. Our brightest can and do compete with the world's best in math and science. So if the zealots out there that are throwing our scores around in comparison with the remainder of the world want to compete on fair field, lets not expect the impossible. Now I am [B]NOT[/B] saying all children do not have a right to a free and appropriate education. I am saying lets compare apples to apples. Most of the world only has 50% or less of the student population in high school today. What is the answer? It certainly is not to strip the best out to be farmed out to every charter school or religious private school that pops up with the public funds that go with that child. Why some say? Here's why because if public schools can [B]hand pic[/B] or should I say cherry pic their students the test scores would be far different when compared to private schools and charter schools. Remember the public schools are required by law to take [B]EVERY[/B] thug, truant, abusive, uninterested, lazy student in this country, without regard for all the previously stated problems. Private schools and charter schools [B]cull[/B] those folks if they so desire. [B] Lets restructure the process[/B]. Lets say hey if you don't want to come to school, your parents don't care if you go or what you do after arriving there, etc then hey after the 8th grade those students have a choice, take the vo tech route or go home. Remember we have all these unfilled seats at our vo tech schools that could be filled. Tulsa Vo tech alone has 2 campuses, West campus and Owasso that are not nearly filled. Lets let them educate those for a while instead of turning their backs on them in the selection process. Let public schools catch their breath and began to educate those who are genuine students. You'd see test scores go up in a heartbeat. Our state, and the nation would quit beating the public school system to death because they'd finally be on a level playing field. Most of all those in high school would truly have an opportunity to grow educationally. [/QUOTE]
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