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<blockquote data-quote="p238shooter" data-source="post: 2860541" data-attributes="member: 24583"><p>It is interesting, to me at least, to hear all the comments from the people that are fed up with the “establishment” from both parties. Now that we have a choice of voting for someone in the establishment or someone who is not in the establishment many are not happy and almost hostile about it.</p><p></p><p>Because Bernie is a devout Socialist and this is a gun forum which I support, I count him out of my choices.</p><p></p><p>Do any of you think Obama comes up with how to do the things he has on his agenda? No, he “hired” a full cabinet of people that put together the results of how to accomplish what he is trying to do. He fires Generals and others that disagree with his agenda.</p><p></p><p>Trump will be the same way, he will put a cabinet in place to find ways to promote his agenda. To me, Trump is only a leader, not a doer himself, but a person who if given the opportunity will listen to and “hire” the best minds in the US to promote his agenda he is promoting. He will most likely fire the people that do not want to go along with his agenda, like all presidents have.</p><p></p><p>So far, every candidate who is a Politician and part of the “establishment” has lied to me and you and stabbed us in the back. So far Trump has not lied to me. Myself, I'll take a chance on a person who has not lied to me over a Politician that I know lies to my face any day, especially if the non-lier has a track record of being a successful person.</p><p></p><p>I do not care if Trump is crude, not PC, looks like a grown up Dennis the Menace or what ever. To me the question: is he smart enough to put a cabinet in place that is not controlled by “the establishment” most of us hate so much to make changes to how this country has been operated for many years? His past track record seems to indicate he knows how to take the opinion and hire the best of the best advisers. Does he really want to Make America Great Again. This remains to be seen. Right now I have no reason to doubt that.</p><p></p><p>So far I see that Trump knows how to grease palms to get what he wants done, whether it be from past business deals or the current media. Trump also knows how to not put up with BS from the “establishment” and all their paid followers to get things done.</p><p></p><p>Would I consider Trump the very best person to be President, I do not know. I can tell you I think he is the best hope to turn the US around we have at this point in time.</p><p></p><p>I do know I will vote for any candidate that I feel can break us away from “the establishment” control.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="p238shooter, post: 2860541, member: 24583"] It is interesting, to me at least, to hear all the comments from the people that are fed up with the “establishment” from both parties. Now that we have a choice of voting for someone in the establishment or someone who is not in the establishment many are not happy and almost hostile about it. Because Bernie is a devout Socialist and this is a gun forum which I support, I count him out of my choices. Do any of you think Obama comes up with how to do the things he has on his agenda? No, he “hired” a full cabinet of people that put together the results of how to accomplish what he is trying to do. He fires Generals and others that disagree with his agenda. Trump will be the same way, he will put a cabinet in place to find ways to promote his agenda. To me, Trump is only a leader, not a doer himself, but a person who if given the opportunity will listen to and “hire” the best minds in the US to promote his agenda he is promoting. He will most likely fire the people that do not want to go along with his agenda, like all presidents have. So far, every candidate who is a Politician and part of the “establishment” has lied to me and you and stabbed us in the back. So far Trump has not lied to me. Myself, I'll take a chance on a person who has not lied to me over a Politician that I know lies to my face any day, especially if the non-lier has a track record of being a successful person. I do not care if Trump is crude, not PC, looks like a grown up Dennis the Menace or what ever. To me the question: is he smart enough to put a cabinet in place that is not controlled by “the establishment” most of us hate so much to make changes to how this country has been operated for many years? His past track record seems to indicate he knows how to take the opinion and hire the best of the best advisers. Does he really want to Make America Great Again. This remains to be seen. Right now I have no reason to doubt that. So far I see that Trump knows how to grease palms to get what he wants done, whether it be from past business deals or the current media. Trump also knows how to not put up with BS from the “establishment” and all their paid followers to get things done. Would I consider Trump the very best person to be President, I do not know. I can tell you I think he is the best hope to turn the US around we have at this point in time. I do know I will vote for any candidate that I feel can break us away from “the establishment” control. [/QUOTE]
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