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<blockquote data-quote="okeydoke" data-source="post: 2909763" data-attributes="member: 41320"><p>the baton is a humane, effective answer to people who aint quite (yet) in need of being shot. Hitting somebody in the back of the knee is NOT "knee capping". It's just a way of making them stop walking. If you're being held at gun point, you ARE under arrest and if you dont comply with orders, you ARE resisting arrest and swiftly escelading levels of force can and should be applied to force you to comply. You do your arguing about it later, in court, where and when you are no threat to the cop or the rest of the public.</p><p></p><p>I was an MP on active duty for a bit over a year and I can tell you that using the baton was taught and encouraged in the US army at the time. It's a travesty that cops have to choose between just yelling at people and shooting them, without an effective "in-between" means of control. Pepper spray somebody, and then YOU get a lungfull as you try to cuff him and haul him to the station. Tasers dont work on everyone and are single shot. It's quite easy to miss with one, just like it is with a pistol. The baton, however, can adminster many whacks per second. Down the shin, to the collarbone, above the knee a few inches, on the outside of the leg. You can drive either end of the baton into the guts, for excellent effectiveness. The outside of the upper arm is a good spot, too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="okeydoke, post: 2909763, member: 41320"] the baton is a humane, effective answer to people who aint quite (yet) in need of being shot. Hitting somebody in the back of the knee is NOT "knee capping". It's just a way of making them stop walking. If you're being held at gun point, you ARE under arrest and if you dont comply with orders, you ARE resisting arrest and swiftly escelading levels of force can and should be applied to force you to comply. You do your arguing about it later, in court, where and when you are no threat to the cop or the rest of the public. I was an MP on active duty for a bit over a year and I can tell you that using the baton was taught and encouraged in the US army at the time. It's a travesty that cops have to choose between just yelling at people and shooting them, without an effective "in-between" means of control. Pepper spray somebody, and then YOU get a lungfull as you try to cuff him and haul him to the station. Tasers dont work on everyone and are single shot. It's quite easy to miss with one, just like it is with a pistol. The baton, however, can adminster many whacks per second. Down the shin, to the collarbone, above the knee a few inches, on the outside of the leg. You can drive either end of the baton into the guts, for excellent effectiveness. The outside of the upper arm is a good spot, too. [/QUOTE]
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