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<blockquote data-quote="Lone Wolf &#039;49" data-source="post: 2387127" data-attributes="member: 3016"><p>This better than nothing from friend who is there every year: 2014 SHOT Show, Media/Range Day</p><p>></p><p>> The SHOT Show hosts a "Media Day" at a local range, so people from the gun</p><p>> press (for which I apparently qualify) can handle and shoot guns. There</p><p>> is a simultaneous and separate "Range Day|," at a different local range,</p><p>> where military rifles and accessories were on display and available to shoot.</p><p>></p><p>> I attended both, Media Day in the morning and Range Day in the afternoon.</p><p>></p><p>> Here is what I found, of note:</p><p>></p><p>> Beretta, who at one time manufactured the excellent 1201 autoloading riot</p><p>> shotgun (long-since out of production), has reintroduced it, now called the</p><p>> "1301/Tactical." I shot it, and it is wonderful, similar to the Benelli</p><p>> M4. Glad Beretta brought it back. Nice sights this time, six-round tube,</p><p>> slim and slick.</p><p>></p><p>> I also got a chance to shoot the Beretta AXR rifle. Compact 223 that</p><p>> takes AR magazines. Nice trigger, and I like it. But, at 2k/copy, it is</p><p>> priced up there with the Israeli Tavor. Both have to compete with ARs, which</p><p>> are available at half that price.</p><p>></p><p>> Beretta's "Nano" compact 9mm pistol is small and slick, smaller than a</p><p>> S&W Shield, and runs fine.</p><p>></p><p>> However, Beretta's "Pico" in 380 Auto is a very small and amazingly thin,</p><p>> thinner than just about any other 380 I know of. Owners will find it</p><p>> easier and more convenient/comfortable to carry concealed than most other small</p><p>> 380s.</p><p>></p><p>> I shot the Kriss "Vector" carbine for the first time. 45 ACP rifle</p><p>> (carbine) that takes Glock magazines. Compact and light, and controllable. I</p><p>> shot the full-auto version, and, even in full-auto, it is smooth and</p><p>> controllable.</p><p>></p><p>> One of the "under 1k" ARs I handled and shot was from a new company,</p><p>> called Devil Dog Arms. Excellent rifle! Another is Double Star's CCC Carbine</p><p>> (a copy of which I have), also excellent.</p><p>></p><p>> On the Devil Dog AR was mounted a compact, rugged 4x optic from a company</p><p>> called Browe. For those wanting magnifying optics, this is a good one!</p><p>></p><p>> Another interesting optic on display is the AQC by a company called MSE.</p><p>> Resembles an EOTech, but is available with multiple reticles, in the same</p><p>> optic. They have a circle and dot, similar to EOTech's, but one can</p><p>> instantly switch to just a dot. The third choice is a dot, flanked by red lines.</p><p>></p><p>></p><p>> Yet another EOTech-like optic, designed specifically for shotguns, is the "</p><p>> Red Ring" the reticle is a red ring, with no dot. It is designed to</p><p>> define a shotgun pattern. I shot a Kel Tec KSG shotgun equipped with a Red</p><p>> Ring, and it is very fast indeed!</p><p>></p><p>> My good friends at MGI demonstrated their "Hydra" rifle. It is an AR</p><p>> that can be converted from 223 to 7.62x39 by changing barrels, bolt/bolt</p><p>> carrier, and magazine well. The whole process takes less than a minute. Pretty</p><p>> slick!</p><p>></p><p>> Another AR on display that I had the opportunity to shoot is the ADCOR</p><p>> gas-piston system. It features an H&K-style forward charging handle. Very</p><p>> slick and smooth, but a little pricy at 2.5k</p><p>></p><p>> As mentioned above, I finally get the chance to shoot Kel-Tec's bullpup KSG</p><p>> pump shotgun. Ran fine, but it is a bruiser, a consequence of its light</p><p>> weight! It has two, parallel, seven-shot magazine tubes, but switch-over</p><p>> is manual, not automatic.</p><p>></p><p>> Glock was there with their new G42 and G43. I didn't shoot either, as the</p><p>> lines were too long! The G42 is a small, single-stack 380 auto. Like all</p><p>> Glocks, it runs fine, but it is a good deal bigger than Kahr's P380 and a</p><p>> lot bigger, and fatter, than Beretta's Pico.</p><p>></p><p>> The G43 is a single-stack 45ACP, about the same dimensions as a 5-inch</p><p>> 1911. It is designed mainly to accommodate rules for certain pistol</p><p>> competitions. However, for concealed carry, the existing G36 is smaller and more</p><p>> suitable.</p><p>></p><p>> The Israeli Tavor was on display, and it is a rifle I really like, one of</p><p>> the few bull-pups I do! Takes AR magazines and is very compact, so it</p><p>> makes a nice travel gun. I've had several in Courses, and all have run fine.</p><p>> Once again, pricy at 2k/copy.</p><p>></p><p>> I got chance to shoot ROBAR's SR21 compact long-range, bolt-action rifle.</p><p>> ROBAR had copies there in 308 and in 300 Win Mag. The stock comes off for</p><p>> easy transport. I watched shooters hitting targets at 800m with it. Even</p><p>> I had no trouble hitting the 400m target. I couldn't even see the one at</p><p>> 800m! Target market is police and non-police, domestic consumers. There</p><p>> are a few people who can appreciate, and take advantage of, this kind of</p><p>> significant capability. Like everything from ROBAR, it is top-drawer.</p><p>></p><p>> Tomorrow, the 2014 SHOT Show officially begins at the Sands Expo Center.</p><p>></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lone Wolf '49, post: 2387127, member: 3016"] This better than nothing from friend who is there every year: 2014 SHOT Show, Media/Range Day > > The SHOT Show hosts a "Media Day" at a local range, so people from the gun > press (for which I apparently qualify) can handle and shoot guns. There > is a simultaneous and separate "Range Day|," at a different local range, > where military rifles and accessories were on display and available to shoot. > > I attended both, Media Day in the morning and Range Day in the afternoon. > > Here is what I found, of note: > > Beretta, who at one time manufactured the excellent 1201 autoloading riot > shotgun (long-since out of production), has reintroduced it, now called the > "1301/Tactical." I shot it, and it is wonderful, similar to the Benelli > M4. Glad Beretta brought it back. Nice sights this time, six-round tube, > slim and slick. > > I also got a chance to shoot the Beretta AXR rifle. Compact 223 that > takes AR magazines. Nice trigger, and I like it. But, at 2k/copy, it is > priced up there with the Israeli Tavor. Both have to compete with ARs, which > are available at half that price. > > Beretta's "Nano" compact 9mm pistol is small and slick, smaller than a > S&W Shield, and runs fine. > > However, Beretta's "Pico" in 380 Auto is a very small and amazingly thin, > thinner than just about any other 380 I know of. Owners will find it > easier and more convenient/comfortable to carry concealed than most other small > 380s. > > I shot the Kriss "Vector" carbine for the first time. 45 ACP rifle > (carbine) that takes Glock magazines. Compact and light, and controllable. I > shot the full-auto version, and, even in full-auto, it is smooth and > controllable. > > One of the "under 1k" ARs I handled and shot was from a new company, > called Devil Dog Arms. Excellent rifle! Another is Double Star's CCC Carbine > (a copy of which I have), also excellent. > > On the Devil Dog AR was mounted a compact, rugged 4x optic from a company > called Browe. For those wanting magnifying optics, this is a good one! > > Another interesting optic on display is the AQC by a company called MSE. > Resembles an EOTech, but is available with multiple reticles, in the same > optic. They have a circle and dot, similar to EOTech's, but one can > instantly switch to just a dot. The third choice is a dot, flanked by red lines. > > > Yet another EOTech-like optic, designed specifically for shotguns, is the " > Red Ring" the reticle is a red ring, with no dot. It is designed to > define a shotgun pattern. I shot a Kel Tec KSG shotgun equipped with a Red > Ring, and it is very fast indeed! > > My good friends at MGI demonstrated their "Hydra" rifle. It is an AR > that can be converted from 223 to 7.62x39 by changing barrels, bolt/bolt > carrier, and magazine well. The whole process takes less than a minute. Pretty > slick! > > Another AR on display that I had the opportunity to shoot is the ADCOR > gas-piston system. It features an H&K-style forward charging handle. Very > slick and smooth, but a little pricy at 2.5k > > As mentioned above, I finally get the chance to shoot Kel-Tec's bullpup KSG > pump shotgun. Ran fine, but it is a bruiser, a consequence of its light > weight! It has two, parallel, seven-shot magazine tubes, but switch-over > is manual, not automatic. > > Glock was there with their new G42 and G43. I didn't shoot either, as the > lines were too long! The G42 is a small, single-stack 380 auto. Like all > Glocks, it runs fine, but it is a good deal bigger than Kahr's P380 and a > lot bigger, and fatter, than Beretta's Pico. > > The G43 is a single-stack 45ACP, about the same dimensions as a 5-inch > 1911. It is designed mainly to accommodate rules for certain pistol > competitions. However, for concealed carry, the existing G36 is smaller and more > suitable. > > The Israeli Tavor was on display, and it is a rifle I really like, one of > the few bull-pups I do! Takes AR magazines and is very compact, so it > makes a nice travel gun. I've had several in Courses, and all have run fine. > Once again, pricy at 2k/copy. > > I got chance to shoot ROBAR's SR21 compact long-range, bolt-action rifle. > ROBAR had copies there in 308 and in 300 Win Mag. The stock comes off for > easy transport. I watched shooters hitting targets at 800m with it. Even > I had no trouble hitting the 400m target. I couldn't even see the one at > 800m! Target market is police and non-police, domestic consumers. There > are a few people who can appreciate, and take advantage of, this kind of > significant capability. Like everything from ROBAR, it is top-drawer. > > Tomorrow, the 2014 SHOT Show officially begins at the Sands Expo Center. > [/QUOTE]
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