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<blockquote data-quote="Wall" data-source="post: 1058596" data-attributes="member: 7420"><p>Amen!!!!!!!!!</p><p></p><p>To reiterate Olyeller's comments, here's a little more thorough explanation (but it says the same thing). I Found this on a page explaining the "conditions of readiness".</p><p></p><p>Using the "half-cock" as a safety:</p><p></p><p><strong>The half-cock notch on the M1911 is really intended as a "fail-safe" and is not recommended as a safety</strong>. However, it has been used as a mode of carry. From Dale Ireland comes this interesting piece of service history from WWII:</p><p></p><p>When the hammer is pulled back just a few millimeters it "half cocks" and pulling the trigger will not fire the gun [on genuine mil-spec G.I. pistols]. I imagine this is an <strong>unsafe and not a recommended safety position</strong>. The reason I bring it up however is that it was a commonly used position especially by left-handers in WWII. My father carried his 1911 (not A1) to Enewitok, Leyte, first wave at Luzon, the battle inside Intramuros, and until he was finally shot near Ipo dam. He tells me that he regularly used the half cocked safety position especially at night and patrolling because bringing the weapon to the full cocked position from the half cocked created much less noise and he was left handed so he couldn't use the thumb safety effectively. He said using the half cocked position was all about noise reduction for lefties while maintaining a small amount of safety that could quickly be released. </p><p></p><p>Again, <strong>the half-cock is intended as a fail-safe in the event that the sear hooks were to fail, and it is not recommended as a mode of carry.</strong> It should also be noted that <strong>on guns with "Series 80" type hammers, the hammer will fall from half-cock when the trigger is pulled.</strong> This would include guns from Springfield Armory and modern production Colts. But, if you happen to be a south paw and find yourself in the jungle with a G.I. M1911A1 and surrounded by enemy troops, the half-cock might be an option.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wall, post: 1058596, member: 7420"] Amen!!!!!!!!! To reiterate Olyeller's comments, here's a little more thorough explanation (but it says the same thing). I Found this on a page explaining the "conditions of readiness". Using the "half-cock" as a safety: [B]The half-cock notch on the M1911 is really intended as a "fail-safe" and is not recommended as a safety[/B]. However, it has been used as a mode of carry. From Dale Ireland comes this interesting piece of service history from WWII: When the hammer is pulled back just a few millimeters it "half cocks" and pulling the trigger will not fire the gun [on genuine mil-spec G.I. pistols]. I imagine this is an [B]unsafe and not a recommended safety position[/B]. The reason I bring it up however is that it was a commonly used position especially by left-handers in WWII. My father carried his 1911 (not A1) to Enewitok, Leyte, first wave at Luzon, the battle inside Intramuros, and until he was finally shot near Ipo dam. He tells me that he regularly used the half cocked safety position especially at night and patrolling because bringing the weapon to the full cocked position from the half cocked created much less noise and he was left handed so he couldn't use the thumb safety effectively. He said using the half cocked position was all about noise reduction for lefties while maintaining a small amount of safety that could quickly be released. Again, [B]the half-cock is intended as a fail-safe in the event that the sear hooks were to fail, and it is not recommended as a mode of carry.[/B] It should also be noted that [B]on guns with "Series 80" type hammers, the hammer will fall from half-cock when the trigger is pulled.[/B] This would include guns from Springfield Armory and modern production Colts. But, if you happen to be a south paw and find yourself in the jungle with a G.I. M1911A1 and surrounded by enemy troops, the half-cock might be an option. [/QUOTE]
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