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Message: <blockquote data-quote="henschman" data-source="post: 1076582" data-attributes="member: 4235">weighing the upsides and the downsides of a job in deciding whether you want to work someplace is a decision everybody has to make.  In any job, you have to decide whether the compensation they're paying is worth the BS you have to put up with.  But ultimately, it IS a choice.  you can take the job or not.  Our society is pretty good about protecting the ability of the employee to terminate the relationship whenever he wants and for whatever reason he wants, but we are not so good about protecting the ability of the employer to do the same thing.  Just one example of how we do not have equal protection under the law.  I know everybody has a family to feed, but until somebody sticks a gun to your head and makes you work someplace, I don't want to hear about how you have no choice in the matter.As for the laws that protect against unreasonable searches and seizures, those laws are purely directed at government action.  Of course, it would also be illegal under the trespass laws for a private citizen to search another's property without permission (as well as a violation of that person's liberty).  You have every right to refuse your employer's request to search any of your property that you bring onto his, but he has every right to kick you off his property and terminate any consensual relationship he has with you at any time and for any reason.  Just like you can quit for any reason, and just like you could kick him off your property if he came onto it without your permission.  That's what is meant by equal rights.  Or do you think you have more rights than your employer for some reason?You're talking about what the law says.  I'm talking about what people have a right to do.  Those are two very different things.  you don't think our rights come from the law, do you?  Or that the law can legitimately take our rights away?  The law is supposed to protect our rights, but all to often it is the main violator of them.  Those employment discrimination laws you refer to are some examples.I'm sure none of you guys are socialists or anything, but some of these arguments sound an awful lot like you think you are ENTITLED to a job, and ENTITLED to have someone provide you one on certain terms.  Sorry to break it to you, but the only thing you are ENTITLED to is for everybody else to leave you alone to do as you wish with your life and your property.  Nobody owes you any affirmative duty to provide you with anything; only the negative duty to leave you alone.  That's freedom.  It can be harsh, but not as harsh as the alternative.</blockquote>

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