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<blockquote data-quote="Traxxis" data-source="post: 2370483" data-attributes="member: 8980"><p>General order of events in a traffic stop from an officer's side... call in that you're doing a traffic stop... dispatch acknowledges you... (this is usually when I would flip on my lights... but some do it before, some after), you give your location and the tag number of the vehicle you're stopping... at that point, the car has usually just come to a stop and the second they come to a stop, my foot is on the ground and I approach the driver. Usually on the walk up to the car, dispatch will say "negative NCIC" (just mean's it's not stolen). They don't tell you who owns the tag on the vehicle because there is no time... there are too many other things going on to clutter up the radio traffic... and the first few seconds of a traffic stop tend to be when things are going to get hairy (if they're going to), so traffic is kept to a minimum at this time.</p><p></p><p>Having said that, I don't think I've ever seen somebody with a kojack light.</p><p></p><p>Not that I'm accusing or anything, but most 17 year olds will stretch the truth... so who knows how much of the story you're getting and how much of it you're not. Did she say "what's your badge number?" and the guy immediately ran off?</p><p></p><p>If it was dark and foggy, who knows the situation.</p><p></p><p>Now, let's assume the stop was legit... there are a few reasons that an officer might abandon a traffic stop and rush off. Traffic stops (frankly, all aspects of police work) are all about priorities. Again, assuming it's a legit stop, and he pulled her over for a broken headlight or speeding 10 over (what 17 year old isn't doing that on a daily basis?). If he walks up to the car, asks for her license and insurance (not registration in OK) and suddenly his radio chimes off about another officer in need of emergency assistance, or a medical emergency..... OR.... what is all-too-common, some jackwagon on the highway that didn't move over to the left lane and flew by at mach 3, 2' off the officer's butt (clearly I've never had such a thing happen to me <img src="/images/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /> ), then it wouldn't be uncommon or out of line at all to quickly give the driver back their stuff and take off to the situation that needs attention. It would of course be courteous and appropriate to at least tell them "I've got another call that I need to attend to... you get a free pass... slow down!" and rush back to the car, but not everybody is like that. :/</p><p></p><p>Was the officer in a uniform? First you said the pickup had a lightbar, then you mentioned earlier it may have been a kojack bubble. </p><p></p><p>I'm not accusing or anything in this post, merely offering possible explanations for the story you gave. There's nothing at all wrong with being cautious. </p><p></p><p>FWIW, I never had anybody wait to pull over (granted, I was always in a fully marked unit), but I wouldn't have been bothered if they wanted to drive a few hundred feet to a parking lot..... BUT.... there is a limit to that. Don't make an officer follow you with your lights on for 5 miles whether you're passing safe places or not.... everybody has their limit of courtesy and understanding.</p><p></p><p>As for the vehicle he was in, pickups are becoming pretty popular as patrol vehicles... Roger Mills County has several of them (in fact, I "think" they only have one unit that ISN'T a pickup) and they are random colors too, not the conventional white or black. Over there, I understand with the dirt roads and bad weather.... but in the city, I personally think they are a complete waste of resources short of a very few winter events. They're worthless in a pursuit, you normally can't transport in them.... they're just impractical. It does however, (and trust me, I'm not talking about a particular detective I knew in a former life) make them think their penis is bigger. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Anyhow, sorry for the random rants, but I hope that maybe a few fears may have been eased. I do think though, that if you, and particularly your son and grand daughter, feel that this was NOT a legitimate stop... it is imperative that you file a report.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Traxxis, post: 2370483, member: 8980"] General order of events in a traffic stop from an officer's side... call in that you're doing a traffic stop... dispatch acknowledges you... (this is usually when I would flip on my lights... but some do it before, some after), you give your location and the tag number of the vehicle you're stopping... at that point, the car has usually just come to a stop and the second they come to a stop, my foot is on the ground and I approach the driver. Usually on the walk up to the car, dispatch will say "negative NCIC" (just mean's it's not stolen). They don't tell you who owns the tag on the vehicle because there is no time... there are too many other things going on to clutter up the radio traffic... and the first few seconds of a traffic stop tend to be when things are going to get hairy (if they're going to), so traffic is kept to a minimum at this time. Having said that, I don't think I've ever seen somebody with a kojack light. Not that I'm accusing or anything, but most 17 year olds will stretch the truth... so who knows how much of the story you're getting and how much of it you're not. Did she say "what's your badge number?" and the guy immediately ran off? If it was dark and foggy, who knows the situation. Now, let's assume the stop was legit... there are a few reasons that an officer might abandon a traffic stop and rush off. Traffic stops (frankly, all aspects of police work) are all about priorities. Again, assuming it's a legit stop, and he pulled her over for a broken headlight or speeding 10 over (what 17 year old isn't doing that on a daily basis?). If he walks up to the car, asks for her license and insurance (not registration in OK) and suddenly his radio chimes off about another officer in need of emergency assistance, or a medical emergency..... OR.... what is all-too-common, some jackwagon on the highway that didn't move over to the left lane and flew by at mach 3, 2' off the officer's butt (clearly I've never had such a thing happen to me :) ), then it wouldn't be uncommon or out of line at all to quickly give the driver back their stuff and take off to the situation that needs attention. It would of course be courteous and appropriate to at least tell them "I've got another call that I need to attend to... you get a free pass... slow down!" and rush back to the car, but not everybody is like that. :/ Was the officer in a uniform? First you said the pickup had a lightbar, then you mentioned earlier it may have been a kojack bubble. I'm not accusing or anything in this post, merely offering possible explanations for the story you gave. There's nothing at all wrong with being cautious. FWIW, I never had anybody wait to pull over (granted, I was always in a fully marked unit), but I wouldn't have been bothered if they wanted to drive a few hundred feet to a parking lot..... BUT.... there is a limit to that. Don't make an officer follow you with your lights on for 5 miles whether you're passing safe places or not.... everybody has their limit of courtesy and understanding. As for the vehicle he was in, pickups are becoming pretty popular as patrol vehicles... Roger Mills County has several of them (in fact, I "think" they only have one unit that ISN'T a pickup) and they are random colors too, not the conventional white or black. Over there, I understand with the dirt roads and bad weather.... but in the city, I personally think they are a complete waste of resources short of a very few winter events. They're worthless in a pursuit, you normally can't transport in them.... they're just impractical. It does however, (and trust me, I'm not talking about a particular detective I knew in a former life) make them think their penis is bigger. :) Anyhow, sorry for the random rants, but I hope that maybe a few fears may have been eased. I do think though, that if you, and particularly your son and grand daughter, feel that this was NOT a legitimate stop... it is imperative that you file a report. [/QUOTE]
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