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<blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 3804611" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>Lucky folks got a demolition clause in their contracts. Some of the wind farms put in do not include demolition and land restoral in their contracts.</p><p>The company that want's to put a couple of towers on one of our farms didn't include that in the proposal contract either.</p><p>I took it to our lawyer, who included environmental clauses to clean up and restore the land to original condition for any reason, hydraulic leak from erection equipment, gear box leak, whatever.</p><p>He also required the company managing the wind farm to remove and restore to original condition should it fail or go obsolete.</p><p>The wind company signed it without discussion. Lots of low balling out there right now.</p><p>We got a letter from them the other day with another check to let us know that they can't start construction of the farm yet as they don't have buyers of the power.</p><p>So, this is an area I'm not familiar with.</p><p>Do wind farms require a customer before building them?</p><p>I know one of them North of us is Oklahoma University power, so they can claim they use 100% wind power which is bullcrap. When the wind doesn't blow, they use coal burners for power. It all runs on the same transmission lines, and there is no way to separate it. They can scream green all they want, but I sat in the Control Room of Sooner Power Plant for many years watching the wind farms sit idle with no wind or too much wind when they feather the blades to keep them from spinning out of control while our coal burner produced 1100 megawatts day in and day out.</p><p>It was a joke among the operators that were tasked with monitoring the loads in power plants and wind farms across Oklahoma. All of them were on that computer screen so there was no BS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dennishoddy, post: 3804611, member: 5412"] Lucky folks got a demolition clause in their contracts. Some of the wind farms put in do not include demolition and land restoral in their contracts. The company that want's to put a couple of towers on one of our farms didn't include that in the proposal contract either. I took it to our lawyer, who included environmental clauses to clean up and restore the land to original condition for any reason, hydraulic leak from erection equipment, gear box leak, whatever. He also required the company managing the wind farm to remove and restore to original condition should it fail or go obsolete. The wind company signed it without discussion. Lots of low balling out there right now. We got a letter from them the other day with another check to let us know that they can't start construction of the farm yet as they don't have buyers of the power. So, this is an area I'm not familiar with. Do wind farms require a customer before building them? I know one of them North of us is Oklahoma University power, so they can claim they use 100% wind power which is bullcrap. When the wind doesn't blow, they use coal burners for power. It all runs on the same transmission lines, and there is no way to separate it. They can scream green all they want, but I sat in the Control Room of Sooner Power Plant for many years watching the wind farms sit idle with no wind or too much wind when they feather the blades to keep them from spinning out of control while our coal burner produced 1100 megawatts day in and day out. It was a joke among the operators that were tasked with monitoring the loads in power plants and wind farms across Oklahoma. All of them were on that computer screen so there was no BS. [/QUOTE]
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