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<blockquote data-quote="swampratt" data-source="post: 4243609" data-attributes="member: 15054"><p>My shooting buddy has the same rifle and his groups looked about the same.</p><p>He tried many loads without much change.</p><p>I noticed his scope was moving in the rings.</p><p>Make a mark on the scope tube with a fingernail next to the rings and see if yours moves.</p><p></p><p>Another issue he had was his hold was not great.</p><p>Front was bagged keep thumb off the barrel.</p><p>Rear was bagged but he was mostly holding the butt of the gun up off the bag and I seen movement in his hold.</p><p></p><p>I told him squeeze the rear bag up against the butt with his left hand and he is shooting right handed.</p><p>That made the gun rock solid and he asked me why I never told him.</p><p></p><p>He was also not reading the scale correctly---- new to reloading.</p><p></p><p>Mixed cases are a deal breaker sometimes.</p><p>Pay close attention to bullet seating pressures when seating the bullets.</p><p></p><p>Seat them slow and if one seats even a little different it will ruin the group.</p><p>I anneal my cases every time to get the most consistent seating forces.</p><p></p><p>Digital scale or beam scale?</p><p>Can you weight the charge remove it from the scale and place it back on 3 times and get the same reading from the scale??</p><p></p><p>Slowly pull the trigger like really slow 10 seconds from start to finish on the pull and stay on target.</p><p>Should be a surprise every time it goes off.</p><p></p><p>Keep the same pressure of your cheek and your shoulder on the rifle stock.</p><p></p><p>Lead sleds I do not like them as when I have used them and then used just a bag the round will impact the target somewhere else on the paper, they do not duplicate shooting for deer in the woods.</p><p>Great for adjusting a scope though.</p><p></p><p>One buddy shot well at close range but took a sub moa rifle and shot 7" groups at 200 yards.</p><p>He was pulling the trigger too fast not sneaking up on it slowly and that caused him to jerk the rifle off target.</p><p>I have shot and hunted with him for 35 years and just mentioned this to him last year that he may have a problem.</p><p>Yep that was the issue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="swampratt, post: 4243609, member: 15054"] My shooting buddy has the same rifle and his groups looked about the same. He tried many loads without much change. I noticed his scope was moving in the rings. Make a mark on the scope tube with a fingernail next to the rings and see if yours moves. Another issue he had was his hold was not great. Front was bagged keep thumb off the barrel. Rear was bagged but he was mostly holding the butt of the gun up off the bag and I seen movement in his hold. I told him squeeze the rear bag up against the butt with his left hand and he is shooting right handed. That made the gun rock solid and he asked me why I never told him. He was also not reading the scale correctly---- new to reloading. Mixed cases are a deal breaker sometimes. Pay close attention to bullet seating pressures when seating the bullets. Seat them slow and if one seats even a little different it will ruin the group. I anneal my cases every time to get the most consistent seating forces. Digital scale or beam scale? Can you weight the charge remove it from the scale and place it back on 3 times and get the same reading from the scale?? Slowly pull the trigger like really slow 10 seconds from start to finish on the pull and stay on target. Should be a surprise every time it goes off. Keep the same pressure of your cheek and your shoulder on the rifle stock. Lead sleds I do not like them as when I have used them and then used just a bag the round will impact the target somewhere else on the paper, they do not duplicate shooting for deer in the woods. Great for adjusting a scope though. One buddy shot well at close range but took a sub moa rifle and shot 7" groups at 200 yards. He was pulling the trigger too fast not sneaking up on it slowly and that caused him to jerk the rifle off target. I have shot and hunted with him for 35 years and just mentioned this to him last year that he may have a problem. Yep that was the issue. [/QUOTE]
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