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<blockquote data-quote="7stw" data-source="post: 2671462" data-attributes="member: 18402"><p>Maybe a system where the poor or individuals whom require assistance (if proven) have more discretion on the age/sex of deer taken? Maybe one would have to "get into the head" of a subsistence hunter to find out how they select the deer they do to put food on the table? Knowing how they think compared to the common deer hunter would help formulate new regulations or adjust what is already on the books</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sorry your mind doesn't grasp the concept of a true meat/subsistence hunter. But to enlighten you yes they do still exist I don't know a % of Oklahoma hunters that are dependent upon venison but it would be more than you think. And what goes through their minds IF they follow the letter of the law is precisely this thought. Is this a legal deer ? It has absolutely nothing to do with trophy quality or age (they're more apt to shoot a young one) there's a reason why many of them don't seek govt assistance and a larger part of that is independent spirit and pride. I grew up in a family that was dependent on wild game of any type for meat. Squirrel rabbit turkey deer bear pig etc. we ate lots of it along with fish and crawfish. (I grew up in Arkansas ) and know a couple of families today who struggle with food cost. And deer and wild pork is a big part of their diet. I'm sorry you don't wish to be live that that's still a part of the world we live in but it truly dose exist. And you're right about regulation not being the answer but rather education to better the deer herd in Oklahoma. The shoot a doe and let young bucks grow campaigns have helped. I don't fill my buck tag every year as I'm really selective. But you bet your ass I'm going to try and fill both of my rifle tags and the holiday bonus tag. I'm very fortunate to have lots of acres of land to hunt and the doe numbers are out of balance in my area. Trophy quality is here as well few people hunt in my area and we have a neighbor that has five sections and not only doesn't allow hunting but reports any suspicious activity around as well. But some bucks don't have the genetics to get big we have lots of quality feed in parts of the state but we will never compete with Kansas and most Midwestern states for true trophy quality with our lack of agricultural crops like those in the corn belt have. I truly believe that we in parts of Oklahoma the doe harvest is too low and buck harvest is higher than it should be. I also agree that we need to slow down the influx of out of state hunters. I myself hunt at least one other state every year. Primarily colorado for elk and on the years I draw a tag elsewhere that's where I'll hunt as well. So I understand the frustration of the draw and the expense involved as well. I also know how tag soup tastes because of not seeing a legal animal or holding out for something bigger and not connecting. And bassin you asked about how a point restriction could help I grew up in Arkansas and they implemented a three point rule when I was about 14 and in our part of the state it helped limited agricultural use primarily a mix of pine and hardwoods. It has since been changed to a four point rule. Ultimately management comes down to hunters and judging age is of far more importance than antler size. A 4.5 yo basket rack is more than likely not getting any bigger. There really isn't a way to fairly restrict age on a deer at the odw level. It must come down to us to do so. And the neighbor that doesn't care well that's his choice county state and world theirs only three kinds of fair. There needs to be some changes made to our current regulations and unless we as hunters and conservationists voice out opinions the elected officials will take the recommendations of a few that don't know what someone not from their region/district needs. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Sent from NSA wire tapped device.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="7stw, post: 2671462, member: 18402"] Maybe a system where the poor or individuals whom require assistance (if proven) have more discretion on the age/sex of deer taken? Maybe one would have to "get into the head" of a subsistence hunter to find out how they select the deer they do to put food on the table? Knowing how they think compared to the common deer hunter would help formulate new regulations or adjust what is already on the books I'm sorry your mind doesn't grasp the concept of a true meat/subsistence hunter. But to enlighten you yes they do still exist I don't know a % of Oklahoma hunters that are dependent upon venison but it would be more than you think. And what goes through their minds IF they follow the letter of the law is precisely this thought. Is this a legal deer ? It has absolutely nothing to do with trophy quality or age (they're more apt to shoot a young one) there's a reason why many of them don't seek govt assistance and a larger part of that is independent spirit and pride. I grew up in a family that was dependent on wild game of any type for meat. Squirrel rabbit turkey deer bear pig etc. we ate lots of it along with fish and crawfish. (I grew up in Arkansas ) and know a couple of families today who struggle with food cost. And deer and wild pork is a big part of their diet. I'm sorry you don't wish to be live that that's still a part of the world we live in but it truly dose exist. And you're right about regulation not being the answer but rather education to better the deer herd in Oklahoma. The shoot a doe and let young bucks grow campaigns have helped. I don't fill my buck tag every year as I'm really selective. But you bet your ass I'm going to try and fill both of my rifle tags and the holiday bonus tag. I'm very fortunate to have lots of acres of land to hunt and the doe numbers are out of balance in my area. Trophy quality is here as well few people hunt in my area and we have a neighbor that has five sections and not only doesn't allow hunting but reports any suspicious activity around as well. But some bucks don't have the genetics to get big we have lots of quality feed in parts of the state but we will never compete with Kansas and most Midwestern states for true trophy quality with our lack of agricultural crops like those in the corn belt have. I truly believe that we in parts of Oklahoma the doe harvest is too low and buck harvest is higher than it should be. I also agree that we need to slow down the influx of out of state hunters. I myself hunt at least one other state every year. Primarily colorado for elk and on the years I draw a tag elsewhere that's where I'll hunt as well. So I understand the frustration of the draw and the expense involved as well. I also know how tag soup tastes because of not seeing a legal animal or holding out for something bigger and not connecting. And bassin you asked about how a point restriction could help I grew up in Arkansas and they implemented a three point rule when I was about 14 and in our part of the state it helped limited agricultural use primarily a mix of pine and hardwoods. It has since been changed to a four point rule. Ultimately management comes down to hunters and judging age is of far more importance than antler size. A 4.5 yo basket rack is more than likely not getting any bigger. There really isn't a way to fairly restrict age on a deer at the odw level. It must come down to us to do so. And the neighbor that doesn't care well that's his choice county state and world theirs only three kinds of fair. There needs to be some changes made to our current regulations and unless we as hunters and conservationists voice out opinions the elected officials will take the recommendations of a few that don't know what someone not from their region/district needs. Sent from NSA wire tapped device. [/QUOTE]
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