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<blockquote data-quote="Dave70968" data-source="post: 2764844" data-attributes="member: 13624"><p>Actually, I was referring to your "if it saves just one life" line of reasoning, which is <em>literally</em>, word-for-word, a common refrain among the "gun-grabbing liberal<s>." But I'll sign on with SMS's comment as well: no, I'm not opposed to education, but rather to the requirement to get a permission slip from Nanny Government to exercise my natural rights.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>I daresay my own education on use of force law exceeds yours...and probably did even before I went to law school...and I didn't need the State to make me do it. We all do potentially hazardous things every day, but we don't have a training course and permit required for everything we do.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>In point of fact, there was a study done--which I don't have time to look for now, as I'm preparing several cases for hearing for my boss--that showed police shoot the wrong person approximately four times as often as private citizens--this, despite their greater training. A comment on why was to the effect of "self defense situations are typically not rife with subtlety; it's easy to figure out who is attacking you." I suspect that a look at the statistics of people charged with murder who asserted self-defense would show the same: people can generally (not always, but generally) tell when lethal force is called for. I further posit that those who get it wrong would probably have gotten it wrong even if you had run them through a couple of hours of legal theory.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>Edit: I found the study. I remembered the author of the article, and it was easy from there:</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s><a href="http://www.catb.org/esr/guns/cowards.html" target="_blank">http://www.catb.org/esr/guns/cowards.html</a></s></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dave70968, post: 2764844, member: 13624"] Actually, I was referring to your "if it saves just one life" line of reasoning, which is [I]literally[/I], word-for-word, a common refrain among the "gun-grabbing liberal[s]." But I'll sign on with SMS's comment as well: no, I'm not opposed to education, but rather to the requirement to get a permission slip from Nanny Government to exercise my natural rights. I daresay my own education on use of force law exceeds yours...and probably did even before I went to law school...and I didn't need the State to make me do it. We all do potentially hazardous things every day, but we don't have a training course and permit required for everything we do. In point of fact, there was a study done--which I don't have time to look for now, as I'm preparing several cases for hearing for my boss--that showed police shoot the wrong person approximately four times as often as private citizens--this, despite their greater training. A comment on why was to the effect of "self defense situations are typically not rife with subtlety; it's easy to figure out who is attacking you." I suspect that a look at the statistics of people charged with murder who asserted self-defense would show the same: people can generally (not always, but generally) tell when lethal force is called for. I further posit that those who get it wrong would probably have gotten it wrong even if you had run them through a couple of hours of legal theory. Edit: I found the study. I remembered the author of the article, and it was easy from there: [url]http://www.catb.org/esr/guns/cowards.html[/url][/s] [/QUOTE]
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