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<blockquote data-quote="sh00ter" data-source="post: 2893620" data-attributes="member: 24531"><p>I understand what you are saying. But it doesn't change the fact that where there is risk, there must be individual choice. When you historically look at all the prescription drug/vaccine issues, any sane person would take note. In order to get them to invest further in safer technology, we have to shine light on it. Right now, there are plenty of people to run cover and shut down any legitimate points or questions. If there was TRUE "informed consent" like is required by law, then I can assure you that the drug company/CDC would have no choice but to acknowledge and work harder to develop safer vaccines.</p><p></p><p>But as long as it is illegal to sue them, there is not real informed consent taking place, and anyone who asks questions or points out past/present problems with vaccines is silenced, then what real motivation do "they" have to improve things. I just showed you earlier in this thread a congressman testifying on the house floor about an internal coverup within the CDC concerning the MMR vaccine. That data showed up to a 384% increased risk for autism spectrum side effects; it was thrown in a garbage can. If you are an intellectually honest person, (now is your chance to prove that), doesn't that bother you as a parent and an American citizen trusting your governemnt to ensure your safety? Hence, the Constitution guarantees LIBERTY, not safety...you must do some due diligence and shine light on problems to get them solved.</p><p></p><p>My main point is just the mandate though...we can debate the facts on both sides of the argument, but what really matters is that I can't vote to make you do something that evidence suggests carries some personal medical risk. Surely you'd also agree with that? Thankfully the good conservatives in Oklahoma believe this way; the RINOs/Liberals are the control freaks chasing problems that statistically don't even exist.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>YES, when your mind is made up, you must discredit anyone who questions the status quo...it is atactic that is rooted in the old Soviet Union. This is one of many GM...maybe she is nuts, I don't know...but I know that DNA fragments from other humans are not meant to be injected into us. I know that the drug companies publish the known side effects. I know that SV40 is real...etc...in order for you to gain any credibility, you must also acknowledge the problems that exist...if you are intellectually honest, you CAN be pro vaccine and still question things case-by-case.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sh00ter, post: 2893620, member: 24531"] I understand what you are saying. But it doesn't change the fact that where there is risk, there must be individual choice. When you historically look at all the prescription drug/vaccine issues, any sane person would take note. In order to get them to invest further in safer technology, we have to shine light on it. Right now, there are plenty of people to run cover and shut down any legitimate points or questions. If there was TRUE "informed consent" like is required by law, then I can assure you that the drug company/CDC would have no choice but to acknowledge and work harder to develop safer vaccines. But as long as it is illegal to sue them, there is not real informed consent taking place, and anyone who asks questions or points out past/present problems with vaccines is silenced, then what real motivation do "they" have to improve things. I just showed you earlier in this thread a congressman testifying on the house floor about an internal coverup within the CDC concerning the MMR vaccine. That data showed up to a 384% increased risk for autism spectrum side effects; it was thrown in a garbage can. If you are an intellectually honest person, (now is your chance to prove that), doesn't that bother you as a parent and an American citizen trusting your governemnt to ensure your safety? Hence, the Constitution guarantees LIBERTY, not safety...you must do some due diligence and shine light on problems to get them solved. My main point is just the mandate though...we can debate the facts on both sides of the argument, but what really matters is that I can't vote to make you do something that evidence suggests carries some personal medical risk. Surely you'd also agree with that? Thankfully the good conservatives in Oklahoma believe this way; the RINOs/Liberals are the control freaks chasing problems that statistically don't even exist. YES, when your mind is made up, you must discredit anyone who questions the status quo...it is atactic that is rooted in the old Soviet Union. This is one of many GM...maybe she is nuts, I don't know...but I know that DNA fragments from other humans are not meant to be injected into us. I know that the drug companies publish the known side effects. I know that SV40 is real...etc...in order for you to gain any credibility, you must also acknowledge the problems that exist...if you are intellectually honest, you CAN be pro vaccine and still question things case-by-case. [/QUOTE]
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