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<blockquote data-quote="JD8" data-source="post: 2893627" data-attributes="member: 24"><p>Yeah yeah I get it... you don't have background to dispel anything I say legitimately so you compare me to socialist. It's a sign of weak argument. YOU do understand what strawman is? Yes?</p><p></p><p>Here's why I say this is moot. You just can dumb down a complex issue to people that aren't educated in science. I guess you missed this whole part of the article?</p><p></p><p>Said particles would have to...</p><p></p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Find its way to the brain in significant quantities.</li> </ul> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Make it into the neurons in the brain in significant quantities.</li> </ul> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Make it into the nucleus of the neurons in significant quantities.</li> </ul> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Undergo homologous recombination at a detectable level, resulting in either the alteration of a cell surface protein or the expression of a foreign cell surface protein that the immune system can recognize.</li> </ul> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Undergo homologous recombination in many neurons in such a way that results in the neurons having cell surface protein(s) altered sufficiently to be recognized as foreign.</li> </ul> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">That’s leaving aside the issue of whether autoimmunity in the brain or chronic brain inflammation is even a cause of autism, which is by no means settled by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, quite the opposite. It’s not at all clear whether the markers of inflammation sometimes reported in the brains of autistic children are a cause, a consequence, or merely an epiphenomenon of autism.</li> </ul><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">In other words, this hypothesis is incredibly implausible on the basis of what we know about molecular biology and human biology.</span></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>Can't have your cake and eat it too my friend. Either you follow what we know, can prove, and what WAS the basis of her previous research.... or she lays down a shred of proof for her hypothesis. Hell I'd be happy if you could even discuss said issues I just laid out on a critical level. </p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JD8, post: 2893627, member: 24"] Yeah yeah I get it... you don't have background to dispel anything I say legitimately so you compare me to socialist. It's a sign of weak argument. YOU do understand what strawman is? Yes? Here's why I say this is moot. You just can dumb down a complex issue to people that aren't educated in science. I guess you missed this whole part of the article? Said particles would have to... [LIST][*]Find its way to the brain in significant quantities.[/LIST] [LIST][*]Make it into the neurons in the brain in significant quantities.[/LIST] [LIST][*]Make it into the nucleus of the neurons in significant quantities.[/LIST] [LIST][*]Undergo homologous recombination at a detectable level, resulting in either the alteration of a cell surface protein or the expression of a foreign cell surface protein that the immune system can recognize.[/LIST] [LIST][*]Undergo homologous recombination in many neurons in such a way that results in the neurons having cell surface protein(s) altered sufficiently to be recognized as foreign.[/LIST] [LIST][*]That’s leaving aside the issue of whether autoimmunity in the brain or chronic brain inflammation is even a cause of autism, which is by no means settled by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, quite the opposite. It’s not at all clear whether the markers of inflammation sometimes reported in the brains of autistic children are a cause, a consequence, or merely an epiphenomenon of autism.[/LIST] [B][SIZE=4]In other words, this hypothesis is incredibly implausible on the basis of what we know about molecular biology and human biology.[/SIZE] [/B] Can't have your cake and eat it too my friend. Either you follow what we know, can prove, and what WAS the basis of her previous research.... or she lays down a shred of proof for her hypothesis. Hell I'd be happy if you could even discuss said issues I just laid out on a critical level. [B] [/B] [/QUOTE]
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