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<blockquote data-quote="OK Corgi Rancher" data-source="post: 4185488" data-attributes="member: 45773"><p>That's never been a secret and it's been going on for decades.</p><p></p><p>I've probably shared this here before, but...</p><p></p><p>When I closed my shop I surrendered all my records according to the law. I surrendered my FFL and did everything I needed to do in terms of notifying the ATF.</p><p></p><p>Several years...like maybe 4 or 5...after I closed I got a call on my cell from ATF for a gun trace. I laughed and told the caller I'd been out of business for a few years and the ATF had my records. Her response was, "I guess that's the end of this trace." She said there was no way of knowing where those records might be as their backlog of processing out-of-business records was several years.</p><p></p><p>Yes...4473s can potentially be a data source for backdoor registration, even though that's illegal. And there are always anecdotal tales of bad things happening with 4473s and the ATF. But that's one story in 10s of millions of forms over the past several years.</p><p></p><p>No gun information is given to the NICS (other than rifle, handgun or other) when a background check is completed. Personally, I don't give a rat's a** if the ATF knows I bought another gun.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OK Corgi Rancher, post: 4185488, member: 45773"] That's never been a secret and it's been going on for decades. I've probably shared this here before, but... When I closed my shop I surrendered all my records according to the law. I surrendered my FFL and did everything I needed to do in terms of notifying the ATF. Several years...like maybe 4 or 5...after I closed I got a call on my cell from ATF for a gun trace. I laughed and told the caller I'd been out of business for a few years and the ATF had my records. Her response was, "I guess that's the end of this trace." She said there was no way of knowing where those records might be as their backlog of processing out-of-business records was several years. Yes...4473s can potentially be a data source for backdoor registration, even though that's illegal. And there are always anecdotal tales of bad things happening with 4473s and the ATF. But that's one story in 10s of millions of forms over the past several years. No gun information is given to the NICS (other than rifle, handgun or other) when a background check is completed. Personally, I don't give a rat's a** if the ATF knows I bought another gun. [/QUOTE]
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