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<blockquote data-quote="ProBusiness" data-source="post: 1256072" data-attributes="member: 6145"><p>to begin with, shotgun instructors take the 'beed' off of shotguns to teach their students how to shoot. You do not look at the sights to shoot a shotgun, you STARE at the MOVING target. this is very hard for rifle shooters to understand and do. But trust me, those cool red, green, fluoresence, etc. sight do nothing for a shotgunner except cause you to miss. Rifle shooters argue this topic but meet me at a skeet field and I can prove it to you. </p><p></p><p>A shotgun is all about the 'pattern' it throws like a rifle is all about the accuracy. Some of the fancy looking shotguns do not pattern well, thus you have 'holes' in your patter big enough for clays and dove to pass thru. </p><p></p><p>The proof is: the semis you see being shot at skeet tourneys are pretty much remington 1100, 1187, and most of all Beretta 391 urika. these shotgun are proven, very little trouble, and pattern/perform well. </p><p></p><p>if money is an issue, a used 1100 or 1187 is very hard to beat and you and pick up a home defense barrel for a decent price. gunsmiths know how to work on them and parts are easy to find. price is around $500. </p><p></p><p>for all screw in choke guns you can buy extended chokes tubes. do they work better than the factory flush chokes - who can say. i do not like the Cordoba: i have seen maybe one guy shooting one in skeet competition. the stock looks very cheap and the recoil pad's price is excessive. they are pretty high and i just don't think they are worth it.</p><p></p><p>a new shotgun by Beretta is the '___________" (i can't remember the name, Explor or something) I shot one the other day in 12 gauge and the lack or recoil is absolutely revolutionary. the reduction in recoil is not hype. it is about $1600. </p><p> </p><p>just my opinion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ProBusiness, post: 1256072, member: 6145"] to begin with, shotgun instructors take the 'beed' off of shotguns to teach their students how to shoot. You do not look at the sights to shoot a shotgun, you STARE at the MOVING target. this is very hard for rifle shooters to understand and do. But trust me, those cool red, green, fluoresence, etc. sight do nothing for a shotgunner except cause you to miss. Rifle shooters argue this topic but meet me at a skeet field and I can prove it to you. A shotgun is all about the 'pattern' it throws like a rifle is all about the accuracy. Some of the fancy looking shotguns do not pattern well, thus you have 'holes' in your patter big enough for clays and dove to pass thru. The proof is: the semis you see being shot at skeet tourneys are pretty much remington 1100, 1187, and most of all Beretta 391 urika. these shotgun are proven, very little trouble, and pattern/perform well. if money is an issue, a used 1100 or 1187 is very hard to beat and you and pick up a home defense barrel for a decent price. gunsmiths know how to work on them and parts are easy to find. price is around $500. for all screw in choke guns you can buy extended chokes tubes. do they work better than the factory flush chokes - who can say. i do not like the Cordoba: i have seen maybe one guy shooting one in skeet competition. the stock looks very cheap and the recoil pad's price is excessive. they are pretty high and i just don't think they are worth it. a new shotgun by Beretta is the '___________" (i can't remember the name, Explor or something) I shot one the other day in 12 gauge and the lack or recoil is absolutely revolutionary. the reduction in recoil is not hype. it is about $1600. just my opinion. [/QUOTE]
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