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<blockquote data-quote="Werewolf" data-source="post: 1787675" data-attributes="member: 239"><p>I think the right to life trumps all others and the 2A is intimately tied to the right to life. </p><p></p><p>I differentiate between private property that is a commercial enterprise where the public is invited in and personal property where they are not. When you invite the public in the 2nd should trump property rights. The law says it doesn't and until it is changed that's just the way it is.</p><p></p><p>For property not open to the public the owner is king - do what he says (within the law) or don't enter the property.</p><p></p><p>Regarding the 1st - speech is very vocal and highly visible. If it disrupts a business then, yes, the owner should be able to make the speaker leave and restrict access. If carrying a weapon into a business disrupts the business then the owner should have the right to ask the person to leave. (carrying concealed does not disrupt business, carrying openly might).</p><p></p><p>This topic has been discussed at length at least once a year for a long time. My opinion is a minority opinion here, definitely a minority opinion amongst the general public and not supported by the courts. So be it. I don't see the law changing. Don't have to like it just have to obey it or be willing to suffer the consequences.</p><p></p><p>I suggest that if one wants this discussion to continue that a new thread devoted to the topic be opened.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Werewolf, post: 1787675, member: 239"] I think the right to life trumps all others and the 2A is intimately tied to the right to life. I differentiate between private property that is a commercial enterprise where the public is invited in and personal property where they are not. When you invite the public in the 2nd should trump property rights. The law says it doesn't and until it is changed that's just the way it is. For property not open to the public the owner is king - do what he says (within the law) or don't enter the property. Regarding the 1st - speech is very vocal and highly visible. If it disrupts a business then, yes, the owner should be able to make the speaker leave and restrict access. If carrying a weapon into a business disrupts the business then the owner should have the right to ask the person to leave. (carrying concealed does not disrupt business, carrying openly might). This topic has been discussed at length at least once a year for a long time. My opinion is a minority opinion here, definitely a minority opinion amongst the general public and not supported by the courts. So be it. I don't see the law changing. Don't have to like it just have to obey it or be willing to suffer the consequences. I suggest that if one wants this discussion to continue that a new thread devoted to the topic be opened. [/QUOTE]
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