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<blockquote data-quote="ez bake" data-source="post: 1009124" data-attributes="member: 229"><p>Trust me - if you're shooting at beyond 500yds, you want something with a greater than 10x power - I was shooting with 18 power at 600yds and barely able to see my hits on the target - the two guys shooting with me were just a hair ahead of me with their 22x Nightforce optics - none of us could see squat at that distance on 10x (especially if you're looking at a white piece of paper and a black dot in the center of it).</p><p></p><p>The ML8 vs. Dots - man I've got a mil-dot (enhanced) and a ML8-style with basically a ruler on it and hands down having the various sized lines to measure against is by far better than dots if you're doing any serious range-finding - especially considering that several different manufacturers "mil-dots" are different sized. If you're going to go shoot at Red Castle and will always know which range you're at, you don't even need it, but if you're hunting with it or doing any serious range-finding at unknown distances, you will appreciate all the extra measuring aids.</p><p></p><p>Leupold has a fairly limited selection of reticles when it comes to long-range and I just don't personally like any of their reticles very much - they make good optics (especially for the budget you're looking at), but again, if you really want to measure against something - this is all they have:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]73205[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ez bake, post: 1009124, member: 229"] Trust me - if you're shooting at beyond 500yds, you want something with a greater than 10x power - I was shooting with 18 power at 600yds and barely able to see my hits on the target - the two guys shooting with me were just a hair ahead of me with their 22x Nightforce optics - none of us could see squat at that distance on 10x (especially if you're looking at a white piece of paper and a black dot in the center of it). The ML8 vs. Dots - man I've got a mil-dot (enhanced) and a ML8-style with basically a ruler on it and hands down having the various sized lines to measure against is by far better than dots if you're doing any serious range-finding - especially considering that several different manufacturers "mil-dots" are different sized. If you're going to go shoot at Red Castle and will always know which range you're at, you don't even need it, but if you're hunting with it or doing any serious range-finding at unknown distances, you will appreciate all the extra measuring aids. Leupold has a fairly limited selection of reticles when it comes to long-range and I just don't personally like any of their reticles very much - they make good optics (especially for the budget you're looking at), but again, if you really want to measure against something - this is all they have: [attach=full]73205[/attach] [/QUOTE]
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