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<blockquote data-quote="Frederick" data-source="post: 2830695" data-attributes="member: 17825"><p>If you want to protest, fine. But this isn't the first time these nutcases tried to tally up with the feds, the last time they threatened to shoot some cops over grazing rights. Of course the cops decided to leave it alone for 'safety reasons'.</p><p></p><p>some on the left are saying it's 'treason', but i don't buy that at all. Not every opposition to the federal government is treason, and not every physical opposition to federal control is necessarily treason either. Treason only exists in very specific circumstances. Otherwise the Battle of Athens, Tennessee would have been 'treason'.</p><p></p><p>That being said, i'm not a fan of Federal power or the government use of force. What they're fighting against is the 'unconstitutional ownership' of western lands by the feds to my understanding. A fair point, the feds do own too much land out west. But bringing guns to your occupation and threatening to shoot any law enforcement officer that tries to enforce the law is insane. </p><p></p><p>Sooner or later the feds or the State will have enough of these lunatics, and there is going to be a very lopsided slaughter where dozens will die and the rest will be injured or captured and spend a very, very long time in prison. That is, if they don't manage to kill a cop and spend the rest of their lives in prison(or get the death penalty). There are ways to protest the government without using guns or threatening to shoot people. </p><p></p><p>They are trying to blackmail the government, and if Waco and other incidents show, the U.S. government will use force when necessary. 150 guys might be a bloodbath waiting to happen, but the State and Federal government have more than enough resources to wipe them out in less than 5 minutes if they so chose.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frederick, post: 2830695, member: 17825"] If you want to protest, fine. But this isn't the first time these nutcases tried to tally up with the feds, the last time they threatened to shoot some cops over grazing rights. Of course the cops decided to leave it alone for 'safety reasons'. some on the left are saying it's 'treason', but i don't buy that at all. Not every opposition to the federal government is treason, and not every physical opposition to federal control is necessarily treason either. Treason only exists in very specific circumstances. Otherwise the Battle of Athens, Tennessee would have been 'treason'. That being said, i'm not a fan of Federal power or the government use of force. What they're fighting against is the 'unconstitutional ownership' of western lands by the feds to my understanding. A fair point, the feds do own too much land out west. But bringing guns to your occupation and threatening to shoot any law enforcement officer that tries to enforce the law is insane. Sooner or later the feds or the State will have enough of these lunatics, and there is going to be a very lopsided slaughter where dozens will die and the rest will be injured or captured and spend a very, very long time in prison. That is, if they don't manage to kill a cop and spend the rest of their lives in prison(or get the death penalty). There are ways to protest the government without using guns or threatening to shoot people. They are trying to blackmail the government, and if Waco and other incidents show, the U.S. government will use force when necessary. 150 guys might be a bloodbath waiting to happen, but the State and Federal government have more than enough resources to wipe them out in less than 5 minutes if they so chose. [/QUOTE]
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