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<blockquote data-quote="sh00ter" data-source="post: 2830716" data-attributes="member: 24531"><p>I disagreed with the force the BLM used in the Bundy stand-off...They could have done it all with paper if they "really" believed Bundy was guilty. A lien on all of his cattle sales and ranch would have won the fight without a single agent having to show up with a machine gun. I was glad it ended peacefully and I saw that as a much different situation than this one.</p><p></p><p>The ranchers in Oregon's charges and sentences didn't fit the "crime", but the issue here is double jeopardy...they already served their time and some liberal judge decided to lock them up again. HOWEVER, they don't want the militia's help and have asked them to leave. So it appears to me that despite the wrongs of the .gov here, this group is intending on armed conflict hoping to kick off a war. It is a bit like your cousin's brother's friend starts a fight in a bar and expects YOU to take a beating on his behalf. Them picking this issue to me is about like the other BLM (black lives matter) picking the Michael brown or Travon cases as their "cause" instead of a more legit cause such as Erick Garner...So what they are doing is brave, but stupid; I hope it resolves peacefully...you can be sure the southern poverty law center will have agent provocateurs or other democrat operatives on-site in hoped to spark a conflict. This way, they get to Waco the patriots and legitimize any further executive actions on gun rights...they (the militia men) are hurting the cause of law-abiding 2nd-amendment supporters. I think this is about agenda 21 personally, and probably why they threw the book at them.</p><p></p><p>But the BLM could still show restraint and diffuse things; one gesture of good will would not to be putting a 73yr old man in prison for life because he burned land he was leasing to control cedar trees, etc...is that really worth terr0rism charges or armed conflict? Nahhh...back to beer and TV, goodnight!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sh00ter, post: 2830716, member: 24531"] I disagreed with the force the BLM used in the Bundy stand-off...They could have done it all with paper if they "really" believed Bundy was guilty. A lien on all of his cattle sales and ranch would have won the fight without a single agent having to show up with a machine gun. I was glad it ended peacefully and I saw that as a much different situation than this one. The ranchers in Oregon's charges and sentences didn't fit the "crime", but the issue here is double jeopardy...they already served their time and some liberal judge decided to lock them up again. HOWEVER, they don't want the militia's help and have asked them to leave. So it appears to me that despite the wrongs of the .gov here, this group is intending on armed conflict hoping to kick off a war. It is a bit like your cousin's brother's friend starts a fight in a bar and expects YOU to take a beating on his behalf. Them picking this issue to me is about like the other BLM (black lives matter) picking the Michael brown or Travon cases as their "cause" instead of a more legit cause such as Erick Garner...So what they are doing is brave, but stupid; I hope it resolves peacefully...you can be sure the southern poverty law center will have agent provocateurs or other democrat operatives on-site in hoped to spark a conflict. This way, they get to Waco the patriots and legitimize any further executive actions on gun rights...they (the militia men) are hurting the cause of law-abiding 2nd-amendment supporters. I think this is about agenda 21 personally, and probably why they threw the book at them. But the BLM could still show restraint and diffuse things; one gesture of good will would not to be putting a 73yr old man in prison for life because he burned land he was leasing to control cedar trees, etc...is that really worth terr0rism charges or armed conflict? Nahhh...back to beer and TV, goodnight! [/QUOTE]
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