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<blockquote data-quote="okeydoke" data-source="post: 2909439" data-attributes="member: 41320"><p>Audie said that the garand was nice for counter sniping, and the tsmg for house clearing, but only if there was a jeep available to lug around the ammo. If he had to carry it all himself, tho, his choice was the little carbine and lots of ammo. So much for needing more stopping power or range, eh? Today, the shorty 223, with scope, has 3x the effective range of the carbine, and at least twice the stopping power of .45 ball ammo, by means of using the very fine Nosler 60 gr partition softpoints in the 223. Zero the iron sights at 175m with the softpoint, zero the scope with 69 gr hpbt match ammo at 300 m. If you need the scope, you'll probably also want the greater precision of the match ammo, the better wind and gravity bucking ability will mean more than the proper expansion of the hp. At the longer ranges, an instant stop is not as necessary. Once hit out at 300+ yds, he's little threat to you. He wont be able to hit you and he'll bleed out plenty while he tries to run 300 yds. :-)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="okeydoke, post: 2909439, member: 41320"] Audie said that the garand was nice for counter sniping, and the tsmg for house clearing, but only if there was a jeep available to lug around the ammo. If he had to carry it all himself, tho, his choice was the little carbine and lots of ammo. So much for needing more stopping power or range, eh? Today, the shorty 223, with scope, has 3x the effective range of the carbine, and at least twice the stopping power of .45 ball ammo, by means of using the very fine Nosler 60 gr partition softpoints in the 223. Zero the iron sights at 175m with the softpoint, zero the scope with 69 gr hpbt match ammo at 300 m. If you need the scope, you'll probably also want the greater precision of the match ammo, the better wind and gravity bucking ability will mean more than the proper expansion of the hp. At the longer ranges, an instant stop is not as necessary. Once hit out at 300+ yds, he's little threat to you. He wont be able to hit you and he'll bleed out plenty while he tries to run 300 yds. :-) [/QUOTE]
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