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<blockquote data-quote="ewheeley" data-source="post: 2019778" data-attributes="member: 10387"><p>I'm not sure I like the idea of militarizing our schools. There is certainly no single way to fix the problem. People keep citing the Israelis' arming of educators, but they don't arm their educators to protect their children. They are their entire adult population as a deterrent against organized, external (yes sometimes internal) forces. This is absolutely not the case in the US. </p><p></p><p>We can start by looking at other countries, determining which countries have the fewest incidents like this, and examining the differences between how we operate and how they operate. This obviously cannot be done without at least looking at gun regulations in the US. Keep in mind, I'm on this forum so I'm definitely pro-gun, but I could not claim to be a realist without at least acknowledging that gun control is part of the discussion.</p><p></p><p>Beyond gun control, though, mental healthcare and societal awareness of gun safety are more important to me. The number of guns in America is not the issue here. It's the access that certain people have to guns. Their access to guns is simply more convenient than their access to other violent means. I'm just throwing this idea out there, so don't flame me... When someone purchases a gun and fills out the 4473, why not include a line that asks if you share a dwelling with someone with a history of mental issues? Some may consider this an invasion of privacy, even I do somewhat. But we as a society, through official and un-official means, need to increase our emphasis on our collective responsibility for those around us. Just because I'm safe with a gun doesn't mean that someone I'm close to can't gain access to my gun. </p><p></p><p>I'm rambling, I know. But I feel like the entire concept of American idealism is a total flop if we have to resort to openly arming our educators just to guarantee the basic safety of our children. It's backwards and points to other failures to address the real problems in America. On a different note, though, I'm fine with CCWs. If someone can legally carry a handgun to Walmart or the movies, then a school should be no different. Denying the rights of CCL holders to carry on school property is like saying "Okay, we trust you to safely carry a firearm everywhere else, but you're unsafe with guns on school property." It's counterintuitive. If someone can't be trusted to carry a gun just because they're near children, then why do we trust them elsewhere?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ewheeley, post: 2019778, member: 10387"] I'm not sure I like the idea of militarizing our schools. There is certainly no single way to fix the problem. People keep citing the Israelis' arming of educators, but they don't arm their educators to protect their children. They are their entire adult population as a deterrent against organized, external (yes sometimes internal) forces. This is absolutely not the case in the US. We can start by looking at other countries, determining which countries have the fewest incidents like this, and examining the differences between how we operate and how they operate. This obviously cannot be done without at least looking at gun regulations in the US. Keep in mind, I'm on this forum so I'm definitely pro-gun, but I could not claim to be a realist without at least acknowledging that gun control is part of the discussion. Beyond gun control, though, mental healthcare and societal awareness of gun safety are more important to me. The number of guns in America is not the issue here. It's the access that certain people have to guns. Their access to guns is simply more convenient than their access to other violent means. I'm just throwing this idea out there, so don't flame me... When someone purchases a gun and fills out the 4473, why not include a line that asks if you share a dwelling with someone with a history of mental issues? Some may consider this an invasion of privacy, even I do somewhat. But we as a society, through official and un-official means, need to increase our emphasis on our collective responsibility for those around us. Just because I'm safe with a gun doesn't mean that someone I'm close to can't gain access to my gun. I'm rambling, I know. But I feel like the entire concept of American idealism is a total flop if we have to resort to openly arming our educators just to guarantee the basic safety of our children. It's backwards and points to other failures to address the real problems in America. On a different note, though, I'm fine with CCWs. If someone can legally carry a handgun to Walmart or the movies, then a school should be no different. Denying the rights of CCL holders to carry on school property is like saying "Okay, we trust you to safely carry a firearm everywhere else, but you're unsafe with guns on school property." It's counterintuitive. If someone can't be trusted to carry a gun just because they're near children, then why do we trust them elsewhere? [/QUOTE]
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