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<blockquote data-quote="OK Corgi Rancher" data-source="post: 3987871" data-attributes="member: 45773"><p>Well... I reread what I wrote in the post you quoted. I was pretty clear I was referring to situations where I might have an empty holster and how that might explain his empty holster. Simply possibilities to consider...nothing more.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then I reread your post I was commenting on and your later post.</p><p></p><p>I came to the conclusion you're just doubling down on nonsense and ignorance. There was no ambiguity in your post. It implied the holster was empty for only one reason...because he drew his gun. And I also commented in a later post that finding a gun on the driver side floor made it a bit more clear why the holster was empty.</p><p></p><p>But I'm a little confused... Because I made it clear one reason the holster might be empty was because he tried to draw his gun. Go back and look...you even quoted it. Then you say <strong><em>"nothing else thus far even remotely supports your suppositions on why the gun may not have been in his holster." </em></strong>Yet it appears you're arguing that he attempted to draw his gun...thus an empty holster. Which was one of my suppositions...which apparently isn't remotely supported yet you're arguing that's why it was empty. So, which is it?</p><p></p><p>So, yeah...you're wrong. Like I said...there could be a number of reasons why that holster was empty. If you were a prosecutor and you took that picture alone, because you said definitively it "says all one needs to know" about why it was empty, before a judge and jury, and tried to make the case that photo says it all, you're gonna look like a fool. That's why investigations are done. To take little pieces of evidence like an empty holster, a gun on the floor within the span of control of the deceased, gunshot residue tests of the deceased's hands, fingerprint and/or DNA evidence from the gun, testimony from the police officer(s) who yelled "GUN" as to what they observed that lead them to yell that, testimony from the other involved officers, testimony from witnesses, other video footage that might be available, bodycam recordings, and many other tid-bits of information, etc...to put the entire story together. In police work, those little bits of information we collect and put together are called "evidence". We try to use evidence to support, or rule out, what might have happened. Sometimes more evidence is gathered that changes things significantly. That's why police officers continue to try to gather ALL the evidence and not just develop some half-assed explanation that's supported by ONE piece of evidence to prove guilt. We like to wait until it's all been examined before we decide how to proceed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OK Corgi Rancher, post: 3987871, member: 45773"] Well... I reread what I wrote in the post you quoted. I was pretty clear I was referring to situations where I might have an empty holster and how that might explain his empty holster. Simply possibilities to consider...nothing more. Then I reread your post I was commenting on and your later post. I came to the conclusion you're just doubling down on nonsense and ignorance. There was no ambiguity in your post. It implied the holster was empty for only one reason...because he drew his gun. And I also commented in a later post that finding a gun on the driver side floor made it a bit more clear why the holster was empty. But I'm a little confused... Because I made it clear one reason the holster might be empty was because he tried to draw his gun. Go back and look...you even quoted it. Then you say [B][I]"nothing else thus far even remotely supports your suppositions on why the gun may not have been in his holster." [/I][/B]Yet it appears you're arguing that he attempted to draw his gun...thus an empty holster. Which was one of my suppositions...which apparently isn't remotely supported yet you're arguing that's why it was empty. So, which is it? So, yeah...you're wrong. Like I said...there could be a number of reasons why that holster was empty. If you were a prosecutor and you took that picture alone, because you said definitively it "says all one needs to know" about why it was empty, before a judge and jury, and tried to make the case that photo says it all, you're gonna look like a fool. That's why investigations are done. To take little pieces of evidence like an empty holster, a gun on the floor within the span of control of the deceased, gunshot residue tests of the deceased's hands, fingerprint and/or DNA evidence from the gun, testimony from the police officer(s) who yelled "GUN" as to what they observed that lead them to yell that, testimony from the other involved officers, testimony from witnesses, other video footage that might be available, bodycam recordings, and many other tid-bits of information, etc...to put the entire story together. In police work, those little bits of information we collect and put together are called "evidence". We try to use evidence to support, or rule out, what might have happened. Sometimes more evidence is gathered that changes things significantly. That's why police officers continue to try to gather ALL the evidence and not just develop some half-assed explanation that's supported by ONE piece of evidence to prove guilt. We like to wait until it's all been examined before we decide how to proceed. [/QUOTE]
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