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<blockquote data-quote="Glocktogo" data-source="post: 2734572" data-attributes="member: 1132"><p>I haven't defended what he did once. He messed up. I don't condone what happened at all.</p><p></p><p>But, you said the subject was "innocent", and we need to learn what that means. By extrapolation, it could be easily inferred that LEO's should never use force to effect an arrest unless the subject has already been tried and found guilty? Any form of battery is illegal, so I can only assume you mean to remove any type of physical force from the LE tool bag? After all, how can you say a little is OK, if you're relying on the fact that eveyone is "innocent until proven guilty" as the reason deadly force shouldn't be used? It's not a Reductum ad Absurdum argument I'm making here, I'm calling attention to the fact that you're applying the law incorrectly. </p><p></p><p>Or do we put dead subjects on trial so we can stop calling them "innocent", just because they're dead? How about the ones who survive their arrest? If they're proven innocent in court for what they were arrested for, should we automatically press charges on the arresting officer for battery?</p><p></p><p>Further, if results are all that really matters to you, are you going to demand doctors who make medical mistakes ending in death be put on trial in criminal court in each and every case? If not, please explain why they're different?</p><p></p><p>You're sitting on your high perch lecturing us about the law, so please Professor Righteous, explain motive and intent as they apply to criminal law? I'm all ears...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glocktogo, post: 2734572, member: 1132"] I haven't defended what he did once. He messed up. I don't condone what happened at all. But, you said the subject was "innocent", and we need to learn what that means. By extrapolation, it could be easily inferred that LEO's should never use force to effect an arrest unless the subject has already been tried and found guilty? Any form of battery is illegal, so I can only assume you mean to remove any type of physical force from the LE tool bag? After all, how can you say a little is OK, if you're relying on the fact that eveyone is "innocent until proven guilty" as the reason deadly force shouldn't be used? It's not a Reductum ad Absurdum argument I'm making here, I'm calling attention to the fact that you're applying the law incorrectly. Or do we put dead subjects on trial so we can stop calling them "innocent", just because they're dead? How about the ones who survive their arrest? If they're proven innocent in court for what they were arrested for, should we automatically press charges on the arresting officer for battery? Further, if results are all that really matters to you, are you going to demand doctors who make medical mistakes ending in death be put on trial in criminal court in each and every case? If not, please explain why they're different? You're sitting on your high perch lecturing us about the law, so please Professor Righteous, explain motive and intent as they apply to criminal law? I'm all ears... [/QUOTE]
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