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<blockquote data-quote="ez bake" data-source="post: 1730365" data-attributes="member: 229"><p>That's funny - I think I was right behind you (was your friend a girl?). </p><p></p><p>I watched him drive two customers away by being rude, and then I asked him about a trade with my Spyderco Nishijin R (a Sprint-run, that is new enough that he didn't even have in stock) for his Spyderco Dialex Junior (which is a knife that's been out for a little bit and hasn't exactly been an overwhelmingly hot seller). </p><p></p><p>He asked to see my knife (which was in the box) so he could look up the number on his phone (presumably on Spyderco's website since he didn't have any in-stock himself) and his eyes got really big and he hesitated and then told me that he couldn't trade straight across.</p><p></p><p>I just sort of paused and then asked if he was sure, and he said that he would need about $45 on my end. I then told him to give me my knife back and to have a nice day. He tried to justify himself and attempted to start negotiating but at that point, I wasn't really interested anymore. </p><p></p><p>Now I should probably make note of the fact that his knife and mine are both worth exactly the same (retail on Spyderco's website), but I can find the Dialex Jr. just about anywhere for upwards of $20 cheaper than he sells them (I'll be honest - he's rarely the cheapest on any of the knives I've bought from him, but I like to support the local folks). My knife isn't exactly available everywhere online and since it's a Sprint run, there will only be 600 (or 1200) made. The cheapest I can find my "R" right now is $139 (the Dialex Junior is available on Cutleryshoppe.com for $123.20). </p><p></p><p>If I had to guess as to how much he'd charge had he gotten my "used" knife (based on the fact that it is a Sprint-run, and that it's not even available at every distributor out there yet), it would probably be in the neighborhood of $160-$170 (he lists the Junior for $145 right now). </p><p></p><p>Now he's perfectly within his right to want to make money (especially in a trade for a knife that he didn't get from a distributor, so technically he can't say it's NIB), but his attitude towards me and the fact that he started out so far out of whack (you can sheer a sheep many times, but you can only get lamb-chops once - he went straight for the lamb chops) just really turned me off to his shop altogether. </p><p></p><p>It's not like there's a huge markup on knives to begin with so even at his prices, he doesn't make $50+ on every knife he sells.</p><p></p><p>The sad thing is that I think he genuinely wanted my knife judging from the look on his face once I told him to give it back. Before the show, I was planning on buying an Al Mar Hawk and/or the Dialex from him even if he wouldn't trade but after the low-balling, his attitude towards me, and seeing his customer-interface skills with some of the other folks walking up to his table, I looked at both, but just couldn't do it. I'll order both online or hit up Little Joes in OKC if I want to support the local folks (might be time to go give The Gadget Company another chance as well).</p><p></p><p>I'm guessing that he didn't recognize my voice (I hadn't told him my name by that point) or the fact that I've purchased over $1000 worth of knives from him this last year.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying I won't ever shop with him ever again, but the guy doesn't exactly have a bunch going for him in my book. He doesn't have a store-front, so you have to pay tax and shipping unless you see him at a show. His prices aren't the best around and he rarely has anything that I can't find anywhere else (to his credit, occasionally he does have some harder to find stuff).</p><p></p><p>I just didn't need the only reason I went to the show to be a disappointment on-top of the surprise extra cost to get in (followed by 1/3 of the tables at the show being half-full or empty). I was kind of bummed until I found that Sig 1911-22 (I will say that I bought some Aguila Sub-sonic .22 ammo as well, so I probably need to get out and shoot some suppressed .22 this next week - that'll make me feel better <img src="/images/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /> ).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ez bake, post: 1730365, member: 229"] That's funny - I think I was right behind you (was your friend a girl?). I watched him drive two customers away by being rude, and then I asked him about a trade with my Spyderco Nishijin R (a Sprint-run, that is new enough that he didn't even have in stock) for his Spyderco Dialex Junior (which is a knife that's been out for a little bit and hasn't exactly been an overwhelmingly hot seller). He asked to see my knife (which was in the box) so he could look up the number on his phone (presumably on Spyderco's website since he didn't have any in-stock himself) and his eyes got really big and he hesitated and then told me that he couldn't trade straight across. I just sort of paused and then asked if he was sure, and he said that he would need about $45 on my end. I then told him to give me my knife back and to have a nice day. He tried to justify himself and attempted to start negotiating but at that point, I wasn't really interested anymore. Now I should probably make note of the fact that his knife and mine are both worth exactly the same (retail on Spyderco's website), but I can find the Dialex Jr. just about anywhere for upwards of $20 cheaper than he sells them (I'll be honest - he's rarely the cheapest on any of the knives I've bought from him, but I like to support the local folks). My knife isn't exactly available everywhere online and since it's a Sprint run, there will only be 600 (or 1200) made. The cheapest I can find my "R" right now is $139 (the Dialex Junior is available on Cutleryshoppe.com for $123.20). If I had to guess as to how much he'd charge had he gotten my "used" knife (based on the fact that it is a Sprint-run, and that it's not even available at every distributor out there yet), it would probably be in the neighborhood of $160-$170 (he lists the Junior for $145 right now). Now he's perfectly within his right to want to make money (especially in a trade for a knife that he didn't get from a distributor, so technically he can't say it's NIB), but his attitude towards me and the fact that he started out so far out of whack (you can sheer a sheep many times, but you can only get lamb-chops once - he went straight for the lamb chops) just really turned me off to his shop altogether. It's not like there's a huge markup on knives to begin with so even at his prices, he doesn't make $50+ on every knife he sells. The sad thing is that I think he genuinely wanted my knife judging from the look on his face once I told him to give it back. Before the show, I was planning on buying an Al Mar Hawk and/or the Dialex from him even if he wouldn't trade but after the low-balling, his attitude towards me, and seeing his customer-interface skills with some of the other folks walking up to his table, I looked at both, but just couldn't do it. I'll order both online or hit up Little Joes in OKC if I want to support the local folks (might be time to go give The Gadget Company another chance as well). I'm guessing that he didn't recognize my voice (I hadn't told him my name by that point) or the fact that I've purchased over $1000 worth of knives from him this last year. I'm not saying I won't ever shop with him ever again, but the guy doesn't exactly have a bunch going for him in my book. He doesn't have a store-front, so you have to pay tax and shipping unless you see him at a show. His prices aren't the best around and he rarely has anything that I can't find anywhere else (to his credit, occasionally he does have some harder to find stuff). I just didn't need the only reason I went to the show to be a disappointment on-top of the surprise extra cost to get in (followed by 1/3 of the tables at the show being half-full or empty). I was kind of bummed until I found that Sig 1911-22 (I will say that I bought some Aguila Sub-sonic .22 ammo as well, so I probably need to get out and shoot some suppressed .22 this next week - that'll make me feel better :) ). [/QUOTE]
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