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<blockquote data-quote="DNP19" data-source="post: 1730445"><p>The daily situation our forces find themselves in is ridiculous and often sadly untenable, and is by no means the first time "friendly" or coalition forces have turned their weapons on US personnel who were training / advising / accompanying them. Afghanistan (Iraq to a much lesser degree) is completely unstable, and has been for as long as we've been there - just as it still will be when we pull out. This is just as it was for many years prior to us showing up, and is one of the reasons it was so attractive to the Taliban and al Qaeda in the case of Afghanistan. Media and official reports which attempt to portray a rosy picture of the US as "winning" (whatever that means in this kind of persistent, unconventional conflict) or rendering the country stable are simply a gross exaggeration of the ground truth. I doubt folks who've been there will disagree - that is not what I saw on my unfortunate occasions to be over there or when speaking to friends who have been as well. As for our folks being unarmed, that was absolutely not the case during my tours in Iraq or my brief visit to Afghanistan prior to my retirement (Army) a couple years ago. </p><p></p><p>Unless there has been a significant policy change, US personnel carry weapons - at least a sidearm - both on and off camp at all times, and even with it being an Afghan ministry government building I would be shocked to hear they were completely unarmed. Of course, I am sure they had zero reason to suspect they would be attacked and were completely unprepared for what occurred.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DNP19, post: 1730445"] The daily situation our forces find themselves in is ridiculous and often sadly untenable, and is by no means the first time "friendly" or coalition forces have turned their weapons on US personnel who were training / advising / accompanying them. Afghanistan (Iraq to a much lesser degree) is completely unstable, and has been for as long as we've been there - just as it still will be when we pull out. This is just as it was for many years prior to us showing up, and is one of the reasons it was so attractive to the Taliban and al Qaeda in the case of Afghanistan. Media and official reports which attempt to portray a rosy picture of the US as "winning" (whatever that means in this kind of persistent, unconventional conflict) or rendering the country stable are simply a gross exaggeration of the ground truth. I doubt folks who've been there will disagree - that is not what I saw on my unfortunate occasions to be over there or when speaking to friends who have been as well. As for our folks being unarmed, that was absolutely not the case during my tours in Iraq or my brief visit to Afghanistan prior to my retirement (Army) a couple years ago. Unless there has been a significant policy change, US personnel carry weapons - at least a sidearm - both on and off camp at all times, and even with it being an Afghan ministry government building I would be shocked to hear they were completely unarmed. Of course, I am sure they had zero reason to suspect they would be attacked and were completely unprepared for what occurred. [/QUOTE]
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