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<blockquote data-quote="donner" data-source="post: 2666425" data-attributes="member: 277"><p>I agree that there is more clear evidence regarding Ferguson NOW, but that doesn't mean that the Bengazi evidence doesn't exist. And my question really isn't even about specifics. I mostly find it odd how some people are so willing to accept one person's 'eye witness' statement in one matter and then disregard it in another. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree about the .gov, but i think there are lots of well documented incidents over time where minority groups have not received fair treatment at the hands of local governments. Again, i'm not saying that it's true in this case, but i am saying that there are those who probably have had this experience and are using that experience as the basis for doubts in this case. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Can you point to where i said there were riots or looting because of the benghazi report, either? I never said they were equal (in fact, i think i acknowledged that they aren't) and i never said the actions following in Ferguson were justified. I think we all are smart enough to recognize that the rioting and the grand jury decision are only slightly related. Some people were likely legitimately protesting the decision, just like some were going to loot no matter what was decided. </p><p></p><p>My question wasn't about the outcomes, it was comparing the reactions to what both amount to the government telling us what to believe from its investigations. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree that transparency is needed and often lacking between the two incidents, but i also am surprised how entrenched some people are (particularly on social media) about the issues. The 'i don't need to read the report to know it was a lie' crowd seems very vocal lately (on BOTH issues).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree. I guess i'm just fascinated that people can so easily hold contradictory positions as true simultaneously. Why are we so sure that the government gets everything wrong, yet so willing to say that it got right in the next breath? Why are my liberal friends so willing to say 'see, the benghazi report said the government didn't lie to us' in one breath and then 'but the prosecutor rigged the system in favor of the cops' in another? Why are my conservative friends willing to say 'trust the grand jury, the prosecutors presented the evidence fairly and the judgment is correct' in one breath and then 'you can't trust anything they tell you about benghazi' in the other. (yes, yes, two very different issues, but the passion with which some people defend their positions is amazing. It's like they've never been wrong and can never face the fact that there might be some truth to the other side's beliefs.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="donner, post: 2666425, member: 277"] I agree that there is more clear evidence regarding Ferguson NOW, but that doesn't mean that the Bengazi evidence doesn't exist. And my question really isn't even about specifics. I mostly find it odd how some people are so willing to accept one person's 'eye witness' statement in one matter and then disregard it in another. I agree about the .gov, but i think there are lots of well documented incidents over time where minority groups have not received fair treatment at the hands of local governments. Again, i'm not saying that it's true in this case, but i am saying that there are those who probably have had this experience and are using that experience as the basis for doubts in this case. Can you point to where i said there were riots or looting because of the benghazi report, either? I never said they were equal (in fact, i think i acknowledged that they aren't) and i never said the actions following in Ferguson were justified. I think we all are smart enough to recognize that the rioting and the grand jury decision are only slightly related. Some people were likely legitimately protesting the decision, just like some were going to loot no matter what was decided. My question wasn't about the outcomes, it was comparing the reactions to what both amount to the government telling us what to believe from its investigations. I agree that transparency is needed and often lacking between the two incidents, but i also am surprised how entrenched some people are (particularly on social media) about the issues. The 'i don't need to read the report to know it was a lie' crowd seems very vocal lately (on BOTH issues). I agree. I guess i'm just fascinated that people can so easily hold contradictory positions as true simultaneously. Why are we so sure that the government gets everything wrong, yet so willing to say that it got right in the next breath? Why are my liberal friends so willing to say 'see, the benghazi report said the government didn't lie to us' in one breath and then 'but the prosecutor rigged the system in favor of the cops' in another? Why are my conservative friends willing to say 'trust the grand jury, the prosecutors presented the evidence fairly and the judgment is correct' in one breath and then 'you can't trust anything they tell you about benghazi' in the other. (yes, yes, two very different issues, but the passion with which some people defend their positions is amazing. It's like they've never been wrong and can never face the fact that there might be some truth to the other side's beliefs.) [/QUOTE]
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