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<blockquote data-quote="ConstitutionCowboy" data-source="post: 2730321" data-attributes="member: 745"><p>As I mentioned earlier, the MMPI will only expose whether or not someone is a sociopath(or exhibits any of a number of other traits), not the why. Anyone can practice good moral behavior and it appears to be well understood here that good moral behavior is learned. Even a sociopath can learn what is expected of a good moral person. A conscience is a different thing altogether. Bonding appears to be the starting point. There are actual chemicals produced in the bonding process:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p></p><p>Though I excerpted the above from Wikipedia(some consider it an unreliable source for many things), the research does show how bonding takes place. Having the feelings these chemicals produce - or the chemicals these feeling produce - seems to be the key. As far as I'm concerned, that is plenty of evidence that a conscience is developed rather than something you are born with(though some of the chemicals are transferred mother-to-baby in the womb).</p><p></p><p>Skinner and many of his ilk have experimented with child development and have shown how interaction with others and certain stimuli appears to have an effect on personalities. Good interactions seem to be the key to developing a conscience(awareness of, and consideration for, others). Lack of interaction or bad interaction seems to produce the lack of awareness of other's feelings, and little to no regard for any life other than their own.</p><p></p><p>All I see is without bonding, a conscience won't develop. Ergo, it's not something you are born with, you are only born with the ability to have a conscience developed. It's a segment, or a cluster, on our hard drive that will get used for something else if it isn't programed with its intended bits and bytes in the time allotted.</p><p></p><p>That's about the extent of my understanding of a conscience. I hope that is enough for you to understand why I believe people are not born with a conscience.</p><p></p><p>Woody</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ConstitutionCowboy, post: 2730321, member: 745"] As I mentioned earlier, the MMPI will only expose whether or not someone is a sociopath(or exhibits any of a number of other traits), not the why. Anyone can practice good moral behavior and it appears to be well understood here that good moral behavior is learned. Even a sociopath can learn what is expected of a good moral person. A conscience is a different thing altogether. Bonding appears to be the starting point. There are actual chemicals produced in the bonding process: [indent][/indent] Though I excerpted the above from Wikipedia(some consider it an unreliable source for many things), the research does show how bonding takes place. Having the feelings these chemicals produce - or the chemicals these feeling produce - seems to be the key. As far as I'm concerned, that is plenty of evidence that a conscience is developed rather than something you are born with(though some of the chemicals are transferred mother-to-baby in the womb). Skinner and many of his ilk have experimented with child development and have shown how interaction with others and certain stimuli appears to have an effect on personalities. Good interactions seem to be the key to developing a conscience(awareness of, and consideration for, others). Lack of interaction or bad interaction seems to produce the lack of awareness of other's feelings, and little to no regard for any life other than their own. All I see is without bonding, a conscience won't develop. Ergo, it's not something you are born with, you are only born with the ability to have a conscience developed. It's a segment, or a cluster, on our hard drive that will get used for something else if it isn't programed with its intended bits and bytes in the time allotted. That's about the extent of my understanding of a conscience. I hope that is enough for you to understand why I believe people are not born with a conscience. Woody [/QUOTE]
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